Comments on: A question of collars http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/a_question_of_collars/ How to start a clothing line or run the one you have, better. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 22:49:13 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Debbie Soles http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/a_question_of_collars/comment-page-1/#comment-1072 Debbie Soles Mon, 05 Dec 2005 13:17:16 +0000 http://www.fashion-incubator.com/2005/11/a_question_of_collars/#comment-1072 What I've always told users is to never trust what any program drafts, to measure everything prior to printing, regardless if the "author" is the so called "best" self taught programmer in the universe. This upsets alot of users because they've drank the koolaid, think that every pattern piece printed is supposed to be perfect, because the self taught programmer has told them so..how far from the truth that really is. When they bought their program from a non sewist, who's never even used their own program...they're told.."just put those measurements in, and click your way to perfect patterns!"LOL I agree with Arak...if "Z" was saavy enough to pre-measure, then she sure could have gone into the CAD portion of program, and fix her little .12 problem. Oh, wait, she probably hasn't bothered to learn that portion of the program!!!LOL You would be amazed at how many own a pattern drafting software program and NEVER learn the CAD portion. .12...what easing??? I'll never forget when I first got my first pattern drafting program...the stand (dress shirt type collar) was almost 2" longer than the neckline...called Tech Support and was told it should be eased to the neckline!!LOL Oh those experts, gotta love em!!!:))) Believe it or not, it took me several years for this expert to see the light, and correct this bug. Each update, new bugs, new problems! Wisdom offered...none! Kathleen you could have found a more interesting example...peter pan collar...geez! Glad she remained nameless!LOL What I’ve always told users is to never trust what any program drafts, to measure everything prior to printing, regardless if the “author” is the so called “best” self taught programmer in the universe.

This upsets alot of users because they’ve drank the koolaid, think that every pattern piece printed is supposed to be perfect, because the self taught programmer has told them so..how far from the truth that really is. When they bought their program from a non sewist, who’s never even used their own program…they’re told..”just put those measurements in, and click your way to perfect patterns!”LOL

I agree with Arak…if “Z” was saavy enough to pre-measure, then she sure could have gone into the CAD portion of program, and fix her little .12 problem. Oh, wait, she probably hasn’t bothered to learn that portion of the program!!!LOL You would be amazed at how many own a pattern drafting software program and NEVER learn the CAD portion.

.12…what easing???

I’ll never forget when I first got my first pattern drafting program…the stand (dress shirt type collar) was almost 2″ longer than the neckline…called Tech Support and was told it should be eased to the neckline!!LOL Oh those experts, gotta love em!!!:))) Believe it or not, it took me several years for this expert to see the light, and correct this bug. Each update, new bugs, new problems!

Wisdom offered…none!

Kathleen you could have found a more interesting example…peter pan collar…geez! Glad she remained nameless!LOL

]]> By: Arak http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/a_question_of_collars/comment-page-1/#comment-1071 Arak Thu, 17 Nov 2005 23:41:16 +0000 http://www.fashion-incubator.com/2005/11/a_question_of_collars/#comment-1071 I recognize this post from the referenced forum. While I certainly agree that the software which Z used to create this problem pattern is a bit buggy I would suggest that Z merely miscut or mishandled her cloth. Certainly matched seams should be of equal lengths. However, Z states that the neckline measures 8.96 and the collar measures 9.08. That is a difference of .12. Less than 1/8 of an inch. That would be difficult to notice while walking a neckline curve much less sewing the cloth. Even following the exquisite standards set forth on this site a mismatch of less than 1/8 of an inch is arguabley tolerable. I would suggest that the neckline was likely stretched in handling as she describes. Another great reason to use the fusible tricot. I noticed in Z's post that she mentioned using (X feature) of (xyz product) included with her software to measure the seam lines. If she is savvy enough to use the (X feature) of (xyz product) to measure the lines she could also use it to reduce the seam line of the collar by .12 through a few clicks. Kathleen, I wholeheartedly agree that the (xxz product) is not CAD software, but I would argue that the (xyz product) is CAD software. Why do you feel that (xyz product) does not qualify as CAD? I recognize this post from the referenced forum. While I certainly agree that the software which Z used to create this problem pattern is a bit buggy I would suggest that Z merely miscut or mishandled her cloth.

Certainly matched seams should be of equal lengths. However, Z states that the neckline measures 8.96 and the collar measures 9.08. That is a difference of .12. Less than 1/8 of an inch. That would be difficult to notice while walking a neckline curve much less sewing the cloth. Even following the exquisite standards set forth on this site a mismatch of less than 1/8 of an inch is arguabley tolerable. I would suggest that the neckline was likely stretched in handling as she describes. Another great reason to use the fusible tricot.

I noticed in Z’s post that she mentioned using (X feature) of (xyz product) included with her software to measure the seam lines. If she is savvy enough to use the (X feature) of (xyz product) to measure the lines she could also use it to reduce the seam line of the collar by .12 through a few clicks.

Kathleen, I wholeheartedly agree that the (xxz product) is not CAD software, but I would argue that the (xyz product) is CAD software. Why do you feel that (xyz product) does not qualify as CAD?

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