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	<description>How to start a clothing line or run the one you have, better.</description>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/copying_processes_5/comment-page-1/#comment-972</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 03:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carol, thanks for the tip. I bought one too. So great that you included the link! I have another pattern book about soft toys that I like for this same reason.

Gigi, keep me posted on the project. Sounds interesting. I also bought a baseball for the same purposes but never made a project of it. Do you want to borrow the bag?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carol, thanks for the tip. I bought one too. So great that you included the link! I have another pattern book about soft toys that I like for this same reason.</p>
<p>Gigi, keep me posted on the project. Sounds interesting. I also bought a baseball for the same purposes but never made a project of it. Do you want to borrow the bag?</p>
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		<title>By: Gigi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gigi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Carol!  I ordered a copy. :-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Carol!  I ordered a copy. <img src='http://www.fashion-incubator.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Carol Kimball</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/copying_processes_5/comment-page-1/#comment-970</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol Kimball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 21:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re:  Gigi and cutting apart a baseball

Toni Scott&#039;s THE COMPLETE BOOK OF STUFFEDWORK, out of print but available on half.com, is one of the best sources for getting your mind into morphing flat patterns into three-dimensional shapes.  Translates beautifully to clothing for bodies.

I used to have two copies (won one for my own soft sculpture in addition to my previous well-thumbed copy) but the loaner is still loaned...
&lt;a href=&quot;http://product.half.ebay.com/_W0QQprZ4717840QQcpidZ1186743342&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://product.half.ebay.com/_W0QQprZ4717840QQcpidZ1186743342&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:  Gigi and cutting apart a baseball</p>
<p>Toni Scott&#8217;s THE COMPLETE BOOK OF STUFFEDWORK, out of print but available on half.com, is one of the best sources for getting your mind into morphing flat patterns into three-dimensional shapes.  Translates beautifully to clothing for bodies.</p>
<p>I used to have two copies (won one for my own soft sculpture in addition to my previous well-thumbed copy) but the loaner is still loaned&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://product.half.ebay.com/_W0QQprZ4717840QQcpidZ1186743342" rel="nofollow">http://product.half.ebay.com/_W0QQprZ4717840QQcpidZ1186743342</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gigi</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/copying_processes_5/comment-page-1/#comment-969</link>
		<dc:creator>Gigi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2006 20:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ever since you posted this I&#039;ve not been able to get this bag off my mind!  This afternoon I finally cut a baseball apart to see if I can come up with my own pattern (for my personal use only, of course).  I brought home a new walking-foot machine yesterday and thought this would be a perfect first project.  Of course, I&#039;ll be fusing and lining mine!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever since you posted this I&#8217;ve not been able to get this bag off my mind!  This afternoon I finally cut a baseball apart to see if I can come up with my own pattern (for my personal use only, of course).  I brought home a new walking-foot machine yesterday and thought this would be a perfect first project.  Of course, I&#8217;ll be fusing and lining mine!</p>
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		<title>By: Cinnamon</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/copying_processes_5/comment-page-1/#comment-968</link>
		<dc:creator>Cinnamon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 23:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is fabulous and something I can completely identify with. I haven&#039;t used leather to make bags since I still feel that I have a lot to learn with fabric and fabric is more forgiving of mistakes, and far cheaper usually, than leather.

Whereas &quot;Beth&quot; probably wouldnt&#039; have wanted your criticisms, this is exactly what I would love to have, and pay to have. It&#039;s a matter of where to start.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is fabulous and something I can completely identify with. I haven&#8217;t used leather to make bags since I still feel that I have a lot to learn with fabric and fabric is more forgiving of mistakes, and far cheaper usually, than leather.</p>
<p>Whereas &#8220;Beth&#8221; probably wouldnt&#8217; have wanted your criticisms, this is exactly what I would love to have, and pay to have. It&#8217;s a matter of where to start.</p>
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		<title>By: Fashion-Incubator</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/copying_processes_5/comment-page-1/#comment-973</link>
		<dc:creator>Fashion-Incubator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 19:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Designers at craft fairs&lt;/strong&gt;

Last weekend I went to the Dona Ana Arts Council Renaissance Craft fair; it&#039;s an annual thing. I like to go to these things to shop the designers. Well not to shop exactly, I guess I spy on them (spying...
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<p>Last weekend I went to the Dona Ana Arts Council Renaissance Craft fair; it&#8217;s an annual thing. I like to go to these things to shop the designers. Well not to shop exactly, I guess I spy on them (spying&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jinjer Markley</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/copying_processes_5/comment-page-1/#comment-967</link>
		<dc:creator>Jinjer Markley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathleen says:
&quot;I mean, nobody&#039;s going to pay $200 for a bag that looks like someone made it as a home economics project.&quot;

The problem is, this is NOT TRUE. the underground fashion scene  (and that&#039;s ALL we have _here_) consistently puts out overpriced, shoddy work because there IS a market for it. It&#039;s not a huge market, but it&#039;s enough to allow designers to convince themselves that ideas are enough and quality isn&#039;t necessary.

The problem comes when you want to grow, and a lot of the designers I know don&#039;t WANT to grow--they&#039;re artists, and they&#039;re perfectly happy making ends barely meet with their art.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathleen says:<br />
&#8220;I mean, nobody&#8217;s going to pay $200 for a bag that looks like someone made it as a home economics project.&#8221;</p>
<p>The problem is, this is NOT TRUE. the underground fashion scene  (and that&#8217;s ALL we have _here_) consistently puts out overpriced, shoddy work because there IS a market for it. It&#8217;s not a huge market, but it&#8217;s enough to allow designers to convince themselves that ideas are enough and quality isn&#8217;t necessary.</p>
<p>The problem comes when you want to grow, and a lot of the designers I know don&#8217;t WANT to grow&#8211;they&#8217;re artists, and they&#8217;re perfectly happy making ends barely meet with their art.</p>
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		<title>By: Shirley Willett</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/copying_processes_5/comment-page-1/#comment-966</link>
		<dc:creator>Shirley Willett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First Kathleen, your discussion on the &quot;quality of handbags&quot; was really great education, and I am going to ask my &quot;designer protÃ©gÃ©s&quot; to read it.
Second, I love your comment &quot;every designer out there swears their ideas are original&quot; â€“ and most that I&#039;ve met over the past 25 years really believe they are their own â€“ and about &quot;creative synchronicity&quot;. In the 1980&#039;s I was teaching part-time at a fashion school, and had a couple of design students come to me crying that their idea had been copied by a famous designer no less!! I explained something like your &quot;creative synchronicity&quot; and now will use that delightful term.
Next I want to say a little about the apparel industry history in America. Which started in the Boston, Massachusetts area at the turn of the 20th century by creation of pattern making. When I first went into the industry in the 1940&#039;s as a factory stitcher, then in the 1950&#039;s as a designer, every apparel manufacturer, except for the really cheap, were COPYISTS. Boston and New York. Creativity came from Paris. I went to New York to learn to climb up the experience ladder  in design rooms. My final job in the 1950&#039;s before coming back to Boston as a designer, was advertised as &quot;Designer-Copyist&quot; â€“ it was so common. Gradually in the 1960&#039;s the fashion schools promoted creativity, and thus began America creativity. But Boston was known as the &quot;technical design center&quot; because we concentrated on the technical and perfected it. As I began my successful designer-manufacturing business in the late 1960&#039;s, I became a production expert because I had that technical pattern background from the factories â€“ and pattern making makes the production system. Other manufacturers in the 1970&#039;s tried to copy my high fashion (leather &amp; suede) styles, but they could not copy it for less cost, because f my efficient production systems. See my web site &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.shirleywillett.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.shirleywillett.com&lt;/a&gt;
My first time adding a comment to your great blog. Kathleen. Keep it up.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First Kathleen, your discussion on the &#8220;quality of handbags&#8221; was really great education, and I am going to ask my &#8220;designer protÃ©gÃ©s&#8221; to read it.<br />
Second, I love your comment &#8220;every designer out there swears their ideas are original&#8221; â€“ and most that I&#8217;ve met over the past 25 years really believe they are their own â€“ and about &#8220;creative synchronicity&#8221;. In the 1980&#8217;s I was teaching part-time at a fashion school, and had a couple of design students come to me crying that their idea had been copied by a famous designer no less!! I explained something like your &#8220;creative synchronicity&#8221; and now will use that delightful term.<br />
Next I want to say a little about the apparel industry history in America. Which started in the Boston, Massachusetts area at the turn of the 20th century by creation of pattern making. When I first went into the industry in the 1940&#8217;s as a factory stitcher, then in the 1950&#8217;s as a designer, every apparel manufacturer, except for the really cheap, were COPYISTS. Boston and New York. Creativity came from Paris. I went to New York to learn to climb up the experience ladder  in design rooms. My final job in the 1950&#8217;s before coming back to Boston as a designer, was advertised as &#8220;Designer-Copyist&#8221; â€“ it was so common. Gradually in the 1960&#8217;s the fashion schools promoted creativity, and thus began America creativity. But Boston was known as the &#8220;technical design center&#8221; because we concentrated on the technical and perfected it. As I began my successful designer-manufacturing business in the late 1960&#8217;s, I became a production expert because I had that technical pattern background from the factories â€“ and pattern making makes the production system. Other manufacturers in the 1970&#8217;s tried to copy my high fashion (leather &#038; suede) styles, but they could not copy it for less cost, because f my efficient production systems. See my web site <a href="http://www.shirleywillett.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.shirleywillett.com</a><br />
My first time adding a comment to your great blog. Kathleen. Keep it up.</p>
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