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		<title>By: Label lessons to learn</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/cpsia-another-tracking-label-update/comment-page-1/#comment-21635</link>
		<dc:creator>Label lessons to learn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 15:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] event, stay tuned for more on this topic as it is a costly requirement. Also see Kathleen’s most recent entry on the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: CPSIA developments; posting lull</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPSIA developments; posting lull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] labels: commission action and policy in PDF, Rick Woldenberg coverage, Kathleen Fasanella/Fashion Incubator, Buggalove, Play Meter (scroll to 7/27), Greco Woodcrafting, Publisher&#8217;s Weekly and earlier, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Wacky  Hermit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wacky  Hermit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Kathleen, you&#039;re great!  I did reapply for the RN number explaining that the booties were more like socks, but that was months ago and I haven&#039;t heard back from them at all, and now it&#039;s too late; the third party testing provisions are doing in my bootie business.  So I suppose my tracking label concerns are purely academic.  I guess I&#039;m still hoping that at the last minute CPSC will rule that XRF testing works for textiles and doesn&#039;t have to be done in a lab.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Kathleen, you&#8217;re great!  I did reapply for the RN number explaining that the booties were more like socks, but that was months ago and I haven&#8217;t heard back from them at all, and now it&#8217;s too late; the third party testing provisions are doing in my bootie business.  So I suppose my tracking label concerns are purely academic.  I guess I&#8217;m still hoping that at the last minute CPSC will rule that XRF testing works for textiles and doesn&#8217;t have to be done in a lab.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgot to mention: I have a friend who bought a case of labels, she doesn&#039;t need that many. She&#039;s looking to sell 30 sheet lots (or more) to someone else who might be interested in selling smaller quantities. If anyone is interested in doing something like this, please contact me. Phone is good, 575-525-1577.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot to mention: I have a friend who bought a case of labels, she doesn&#8217;t need that many. She&#8217;s looking to sell 30 sheet lots (or more) to someone else who might be interested in selling smaller quantities. If anyone is interested in doing something like this, please contact me. Phone is good, 575-525-1577.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Becky:
Another visitor posted a great comment that answers a lot of that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/cpsia-printable-labels-for-august-requirements/#comment-16017&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; but I&#039;ll go ahead and quote Marlene here too. She said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I found some printable labels at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rogenerationusa.com/request.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rogeneration&lt;/a&gt;. They also go by Rogen Studio.  You can get on their website and check out what they have.  They were nice enough to send me some samples and I was able to try them out.  They offer labels for both inkjet and laser and have different sizes available.  Please note that I have an inkjet printer that uses Epson No. 68 high capacity black ink. &quot; Because of the ink&#039;s instant drying, all pigment formulation, prints are smudge, fade and water resistant, whether you create single or double sided prints.&quot; 

This was my experience:
Remar - most inexpensive and you get what you pay for.

Econo- Although I have an inkjet printer, I much preferred the laser labels.  They were a little thicker and I am printing on both sides.  I&#039;m printing all my info on one side and adding the cpsc info on the back.  (This may not work for all injet printers). They also have a pearl coated label that I liked best, but after printing on it, you could hardly read the info. and if my memory serves me, it was much more expensive.

The labels come in sheets that are perforated and quite easy to use. There are 50,000 labels per case.  Prices vary by size and quality.

I made a sample, printed both sides, and washed and dried it and it came out fine.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Esther: agreed. But at least they backed off someone being required to list their contractor which would make sourcing by competing interests really easy. kwim? Fwiw, I&#039;ve found that many DEs can&#039;t find a contractor in their own town that is literally five blocks from them. That is a true story btw. Few contractors have yellow page listings or are even listed in the right category. 

WH: Is there anything to like about it? I get in trouble for saying this with other parties much more important and powerful than me but I think a beefed up and more inclusive RN system would be a move in the right direction provided notices were sent to manufacturers on matters that affected them -before it became an issue. I&#039;d re-apply if I were you, these are probably more like socks, or maybe slippers. What&#039;s the rule on slippers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Becky:<br />
Another visitor posted a great comment that answers a lot of that <a href="http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/cpsia-printable-labels-for-august-requirements/#comment-16017" rel="nofollow">here</a> but I&#8217;ll go ahead and quote Marlene here too. She said:</p>
<blockquote><p>I found some printable labels at <a href="http://www.rogenerationusa.com/request.htm" rel="nofollow">Rogeneration</a>. They also go by Rogen Studio.  You can get on their website and check out what they have.  They were nice enough to send me some samples and I was able to try them out.  They offer labels for both inkjet and laser and have different sizes available.  Please note that I have an inkjet printer that uses Epson No. 68 high capacity black ink. &#8221; Because of the ink&#8217;s instant drying, all pigment formulation, prints are smudge, fade and water resistant, whether you create single or double sided prints.&#8221; </p>
<p>This was my experience:<br />
Remar &#8211; most inexpensive and you get what you pay for.</p>
<p>Econo- Although I have an inkjet printer, I much preferred the laser labels.  They were a little thicker and I am printing on both sides.  I&#8217;m printing all my info on one side and adding the cpsc info on the back.  (This may not work for all injet printers). They also have a pearl coated label that I liked best, but after printing on it, you could hardly read the info. and if my memory serves me, it was much more expensive.</p>
<p>The labels come in sheets that are perforated and quite easy to use. There are 50,000 labels per case.  Prices vary by size and quality.</p>
<p>I made a sample, printed both sides, and washed and dried it and it came out fine.</p></blockquote>
<p>Esther: agreed. But at least they backed off someone being required to list their contractor which would make sourcing by competing interests really easy. kwim? Fwiw, I&#8217;ve found that many DEs can&#8217;t find a contractor in their own town that is literally five blocks from them. That is a true story btw. Few contractors have yellow page listings or are even listed in the right category. </p>
<p>WH: Is there anything to like about it? I get in trouble for saying this with other parties much more important and powerful than me but I think a beefed up and more inclusive RN system would be a move in the right direction provided notices were sent to manufacturers on matters that affected them -before it became an issue. I&#8217;d re-apply if I were you, these are probably more like socks, or maybe slippers. What&#8217;s the rule on slippers?</p>
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		<title>By: Wacky  Hermit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wacky  Hermit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 04:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really hung up on this &quot;adversely affect product aesthetics&quot; thing.

First off, aesthetic judgments are notoriously subjective.  If there actually turns out to be a way to attach a label to hand crocheted baby booties and *I* just don&#039;t like how it looks, but CPSC doesn&#039;t care how it looks, how&#039;s that going to play out?  What if I can figure out a way (e.g. sewing a label on by hand, with stitching invisible from the outside) but it isn&#039;t practical, and the way that is practical to attach the label (e.g. sewing a label on by machine, with stitching visible from the outside) in my opinion mars the texture?  Will my aesthetic opinion hold up in court?

Second, what do you do if the step at which you have to attach the label comes before you can determine with any specificity the date of final assembly which is supposed to be on the label?

Third, is a hand crocheted baby bootie that looks like a shoe a sock or a shoe?  I applied for an RN number and was denied because they thought my booties were shoes.  But they&#039;re worn like socks (i.e. not as a street shoe, by non-walking babies) even though they look like shoes.

Not that I expect Kathleen to personally provide definitive answers to these questions, of course.  Just throwing them out into the ether.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really hung up on this &#8220;adversely affect product aesthetics&#8221; thing.</p>
<p>First off, aesthetic judgments are notoriously subjective.  If there actually turns out to be a way to attach a label to hand crocheted baby booties and *I* just don&#8217;t like how it looks, but CPSC doesn&#8217;t care how it looks, how&#8217;s that going to play out?  What if I can figure out a way (e.g. sewing a label on by hand, with stitching invisible from the outside) but it isn&#8217;t practical, and the way that is practical to attach the label (e.g. sewing a label on by machine, with stitching visible from the outside) in my opinion mars the texture?  Will my aesthetic opinion hold up in court?</p>
<p>Second, what do you do if the step at which you have to attach the label comes before you can determine with any specificity the date of final assembly which is supposed to be on the label?</p>
<p>Third, is a hand crocheted baby bootie that looks like a shoe a sock or a shoe?  I applied for an RN number and was denied because they thought my booties were shoes.  But they&#8217;re worn like socks (i.e. not as a street shoe, by non-walking babies) even though they look like shoes.</p>
<p>Not that I expect Kathleen to personally provide definitive answers to these questions, of course.  Just throwing them out into the ether.</p>
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		<title>By: Esther</title>
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		<dc:creator>Esther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the big problems with the tracking labels is the disclosure of the city, state, country rule, IMO. Not a problem if you manufacture in say, Los Angeles. But if you manufacture in Des Moines, IA (hypothetical) and it is a fantastic small manufacturer with competitive prices, do you really want to share that info. It would be easy for a competitor to track that down. The manufacturing location goes above and beyond what the FTC requires. Would disclosing this really help in recall effectiveness? I doubt it as most manufacturing companies can tell you without even looking at paperwork where something was manufactured.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the big problems with the tracking labels is the disclosure of the city, state, country rule, IMO. Not a problem if you manufacture in say, Los Angeles. But if you manufacture in Des Moines, IA (hypothetical) and it is a fantastic small manufacturer with competitive prices, do you really want to share that info. It would be easy for a competitor to track that down. The manufacturing location goes above and beyond what the FTC requires. Would disclosing this really help in recall effectiveness? I doubt it as most manufacturing companies can tell you without even looking at paperwork where something was manufactured.</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 23:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathleen, do you still feel confident about the computer printed labels you tested a few weeks ago? Also, did you use any special type of ink cartridge to print them and what was the fabric you used. This seems to be the best solution for us one of a kind manufacturers. If they hold up to the testing that is. Being one that is barely starting out, I want to be sure I am doing things correctly from the beginning. My next concern will be the testing of the snaps, zippers, buttons, etc. that I will be using. I have no idea how I will handle that hurdle yet. Your blog has been a huge resource for me. I take each morning doing research and educating myself, before I start my sewing day. So glad I found you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathleen, do you still feel confident about the computer printed labels you tested a few weeks ago? Also, did you use any special type of ink cartridge to print them and what was the fabric you used. This seems to be the best solution for us one of a kind manufacturers. If they hold up to the testing that is. Being one that is barely starting out, I want to be sure I am doing things correctly from the beginning. My next concern will be the testing of the snaps, zippers, buttons, etc. that I will be using. I have no idea how I will handle that hurdle yet. Your blog has been a huge resource for me. I take each morning doing research and educating myself, before I start my sewing day. So glad I found you.</p>
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