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		<title>By: Will you need to do a recall?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will you need to do a recall?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for sale. Shocking, no? If you don’t know why ties and drawstrings are a huge problem, catch up now. Since I am friendly with the proprietor, I asked her about it and mentioned the problem. She was [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Floyd Stearns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Floyd Stearns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 18:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I read all this stuff, I have to wonder how I have survived these past 67 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I read all this stuff, I have to wonder how I have survived these past 67 years.</p>
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		<title>By: CPSIA: Tracking labels update</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPSIA: Tracking labels update</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] be very wise to assume one is not compliant unless the guidelines are closely studied. See this entry for more information including photos of specific [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Molly Chen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Molly Chen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so glad to see your post and address the specific challenges of bibs today.  As a mother of two, I&#039;ve always wondered (especially with the first child) that isn&#039;t the common bib the biggest strangulation hazard?  They warn you about tangling cords and strings, but here you are wrapping something around your baby&#039;s neck - and not just for feeding, but all day long for soaking up drool.

And when a colicky baby finally falls asleep, I just don&#039;t have the heart to disburse the baby, reach to the back of the neck and yank that bib off. Then what happens, I get that tremendous feeling of guilt when I find the bib covering the baby&#039;s face.

Child safety is a hard issue to compromise.  One child injuring from a poor design is one child too many.  There are guidelines that do go &quot;to far&quot; and beyond reality but I&#039;m surprised there hasn&#039;t been a better solution to the common bib - well, at least not until I started my product line.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so glad to see your post and address the specific challenges of bibs today.  As a mother of two, I&#8217;ve always wondered (especially with the first child) that isn&#8217;t the common bib the biggest strangulation hazard?  They warn you about tangling cords and strings, but here you are wrapping something around your baby&#8217;s neck &#8211; and not just for feeding, but all day long for soaking up drool.</p>
<p>And when a colicky baby finally falls asleep, I just don&#8217;t have the heart to disburse the baby, reach to the back of the neck and yank that bib off. Then what happens, I get that tremendous feeling of guilt when I find the bib covering the baby&#8217;s face.</p>
<p>Child safety is a hard issue to compromise.  One child injuring from a poor design is one child too many.  There are guidelines that do go &#8220;to far&#8221; and beyond reality but I&#8217;m surprised there hasn&#8217;t been a better solution to the common bib &#8211; well, at least not until I started my product line.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hum, I guess I can see the point of this when it comes to clothing for infants, but not for older kids.

I have a better memory than most of things that happened to me as a child, and I have a clear memory of a winter coat I wore when I was six whose drawstring occassionally got caught on the playground slide.  My solution to the problem was to climb up the few inches to the top of the slide by grabbing the edges and detaching the string from the gap it got hung up on.  It wasn&#039;t particularly traumatic, the reason that I remember it is that it pulled the drawstring partially out of the casing and my grandmother taught me how to work the drawstring back through to fix it.

However, an adult woman of my aquaintance lost a leg a few years ago when a bag she was carrying caught in a train door.  She was dragged by the train because she was wearing a heavy winter coat and wasn&#039;t able to disentangle herself from the bag.  But I&#039;m not ready to declare drawstrings and shoulder bags &quot;unsafe at any speed.&quot;

The truth is that a kid is much more likely to die from falling off a piece of playground equipment than from getting caught on it.  Back when I was a kid our playground equipment was directly on a paved surface, but that doesn&#039;t mean I&#039;m against having soft surfaces under playground equipment today.  Safety standards change over time.

I wonder what the CPSC would make of the &quot;leading strings&quot; that were commonly attached to 18th century toddler&#039;s clothing to make them easy to hang on to while they were learning to walk?  I bet kids in leading strings didn&#039;t get the now common dislocated elbow injury which is caused when a small child falls while an adult is holding his/her hand.  But today there are probably more dangerous things to get caught in then there were in the 18th century.

P.S. Here&#039;s an interesting detailed report about a slide-strangling: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.triodyne.com/SAFETY~1/SB_V19N3.PDF&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.triodyne.com/SAFETY~1/SB_V19N3.PDF&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.triodyne.com/SAFETY~1/SB_V19N3.PDF&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
Looks like allowing two-year-old involved to play on a slide without supervision was also an element of the accident.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hum, I guess I can see the point of this when it comes to clothing for infants, but not for older kids.</p>
<p>I have a better memory than most of things that happened to me as a child, and I have a clear memory of a winter coat I wore when I was six whose drawstring occassionally got caught on the playground slide.  My solution to the problem was to climb up the few inches to the top of the slide by grabbing the edges and detaching the string from the gap it got hung up on.  It wasn&#8217;t particularly traumatic, the reason that I remember it is that it pulled the drawstring partially out of the casing and my grandmother taught me how to work the drawstring back through to fix it.</p>
<p>However, an adult woman of my aquaintance lost a leg a few years ago when a bag she was carrying caught in a train door.  She was dragged by the train because she was wearing a heavy winter coat and wasn&#8217;t able to disentangle herself from the bag.  But I&#8217;m not ready to declare drawstrings and shoulder bags &#8220;unsafe at any speed.&#8221;</p>
<p>The truth is that a kid is much more likely to die from falling off a piece of playground equipment than from getting caught on it.  Back when I was a kid our playground equipment was directly on a paved surface, but that doesn&#8217;t mean I&#8217;m against having soft surfaces under playground equipment today.  Safety standards change over time.</p>
<p>I wonder what the CPSC would make of the &#8220;leading strings&#8221; that were commonly attached to 18th century toddler&#8217;s clothing to make them easy to hang on to while they were learning to walk?  I bet kids in leading strings didn&#8217;t get the now common dislocated elbow injury which is caused when a small child falls while an adult is holding his/her hand.  But today there are probably more dangerous things to get caught in then there were in the 18th century.</p>
<p>P.S. Here&#8217;s an interesting detailed report about a slide-strangling: <a href="http://www.triodyne.com/SAFETY~1/SB_V19N3.PDF" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.triodyne.com/SAFETY~1/SB_V19N3.PDF" rel="nofollow">http://www.triodyne.com/SAFETY~1/SB_V19N3.PDF</a><br />
Looks like allowing two-year-old involved to play on a slide without supervision was also an element of the accident.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Bloodgood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Bloodgood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Istanbul, many of the streets and sidewalks are cobblestones and when I was there, I never saw any cones or barricades or warnings around potholes or places they were fixing or around the lamppost that was waiting to be installed.  Everyone just paid attention and walked around those things.

But cones and barricades are one thing and excess regulations that end up not improving things and making them crappy is another.

I can see never having baby clothes with drawstrings but would be fine for older kids, maybe.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Istanbul, many of the streets and sidewalks are cobblestones and when I was there, I never saw any cones or barricades or warnings around potholes or places they were fixing or around the lamppost that was waiting to be installed.  Everyone just paid attention and walked around those things.</p>
<p>But cones and barricades are one thing and excess regulations that end up not improving things and making them crappy is another.</p>
<p>I can see never having baby clothes with drawstrings but would be fine for older kids, maybe.</p>
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		<title>By: Jasmin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jasmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 02:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find this fascinating, particularly as I have an interest in Clare McCardell, whose use of drawstrings and sashes was applauded for providing fit in the ready to wear market, marking a significant change in apparel manufacture - for adult wear, but one wonders how long it will be before drawstrings in adult wear are an issue as well. I do wonder why as a society we are so protectionist and yet fail so badly to create a safe, respectful and caring environment for people. Is excessive regulation and legislation a substitute for common sense and responsibility? Taking responsibility away from the individual and making legislative rulings doesn&#039;t seem to actually work ... off the point a little maybe, but I wonder whether it is a sign of a failing society?
Here in New Zealand we have the same issues of increasing regulatory burdens to enforce safety and quality (housing is a great example) with significant compliance costs, which do not actually seem to effect improvement - I&#039;d still rather have a house (or dress!) built 40 years ago in which the quality was a result of skill and pride in workmanship, rather than any attempt to comply with external rulings. In my view, internal drivers (care, pride, commitment, skill, responsibility) result in a far better outcome than external drivers (legislation, standards, &#039;rules&#039; etc) which seem to merely result in additional cost, but not necessarily a better outcome. Basic standards are useful, but excess legislation simply doesn&#039;t seem to make sense.

In a way, it seems to me that DEs follow a form of Agile methodology (software development!) which focuses on frequent face to face communication within the team, trusting skilled individuals to provide quality work, frequent iteration and development, and welcoming changes that add value. Excess legislation and protection of the  *helpless* consumer (who could actually just chose not to purchase the item)seems silly to me. If you expect someone (the consumer) to be inadequate and incapable of making a reasonable decision ... in the end they will be.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this fascinating, particularly as I have an interest in Clare McCardell, whose use of drawstrings and sashes was applauded for providing fit in the ready to wear market, marking a significant change in apparel manufacture &#8211; for adult wear, but one wonders how long it will be before drawstrings in adult wear are an issue as well. I do wonder why as a society we are so protectionist and yet fail so badly to create a safe, respectful and caring environment for people. Is excessive regulation and legislation a substitute for common sense and responsibility? Taking responsibility away from the individual and making legislative rulings doesn&#8217;t seem to actually work &#8230; off the point a little maybe, but I wonder whether it is a sign of a failing society?<br />
Here in New Zealand we have the same issues of increasing regulatory burdens to enforce safety and quality (housing is a great example) with significant compliance costs, which do not actually seem to effect improvement &#8211; I&#8217;d still rather have a house (or dress!) built 40 years ago in which the quality was a result of skill and pride in workmanship, rather than any attempt to comply with external rulings. In my view, internal drivers (care, pride, commitment, skill, responsibility) result in a far better outcome than external drivers (legislation, standards, &#8216;rules&#8217; etc) which seem to merely result in additional cost, but not necessarily a better outcome. Basic standards are useful, but excess legislation simply doesn&#8217;t seem to make sense.</p>
<p>In a way, it seems to me that DEs follow a form of Agile methodology (software development!) which focuses on frequent face to face communication within the team, trusting skilled individuals to provide quality work, frequent iteration and development, and welcoming changes that add value. Excess legislation and protection of the  *helpless* consumer (who could actually just chose not to purchase the item)seems silly to me. If you expect someone (the consumer) to be inadequate and incapable of making a reasonable decision &#8230; in the end they will be.</p>
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		<title>By: bethany</title>
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		<dc:creator>bethany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 01:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I get the fact this isnt going to be the popular opinion, but I feel like you CAN be too careful when it comes to kids. I think it is sad that so many kids are not walking to and from school because their parents have an irrational fear of strangers taking their children. I think it is sad that there are now super viruses that are caused because so many overprotective parents used that antibacterial gel to kill any germ that might give their kids a cold. I think it is sad that kids cant play tag, swing on a swing, play dodge ball, and there are even towns banning baseball because somebody might get hurt- either physically or emotionally. So yes, I do think we can over protect our kids. And this &#039;ban&#039; on drawstrings and ties, especially around the waist is just silly.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I get the fact this isnt going to be the popular opinion, but I feel like you CAN be too careful when it comes to kids. I think it is sad that so many kids are not walking to and from school because their parents have an irrational fear of strangers taking their children. I think it is sad that there are now super viruses that are caused because so many overprotective parents used that antibacterial gel to kill any germ that might give their kids a cold. I think it is sad that kids cant play tag, swing on a swing, play dodge ball, and there are even towns banning baseball because somebody might get hurt- either physically or emotionally. So yes, I do think we can over protect our kids. And this &#8216;ban&#8217; on drawstrings and ties, especially around the waist is just silly.</p>
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		<title>By: Darby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve done so much research on this topic, because I wanted to do a drawstring type closure on a swimsuit top (as opposed to just a tie at the neck or a tie at the back)... it would have made tightening the top so it fit nicely so easy.  Well, after reading about all of the standards, especially those in NY, I decided against it.  You just can&#039;t be careful enough when it comes to kids.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve done so much research on this topic, because I wanted to do a drawstring type closure on a swimsuit top (as opposed to just a tie at the neck or a tie at the back)&#8230; it would have made tightening the top so it fit nicely so easy.  Well, after reading about all of the standards, especially those in NY, I decided against it.  You just can&#8217;t be careful enough when it comes to kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Esther</title>
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		<dc:creator>Esther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is an extra emotional factor when a child is injured. Even though the numbers of children hurt are statistically low (the lead issue is honestly no different), the motivation to create a 100% safe product increases. The goal is unattainable, IMO. We can do the very best we can though.... The stress or worry of a lawsuit is always looming on the horizon for child product manufacturers.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an extra emotional factor when a child is injured. Even though the numbers of children hurt are statistically low (the lead issue is honestly no different), the motivation to create a 100% safe product increases. The goal is unattainable, IMO. We can do the very best we can though&#8230;. The stress or worry of a lawsuit is always looming on the horizon for child product manufacturers.</p>
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