Comments on: Ethics in clothing design http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/ethics_in_clothing_design/ How to start a clothing line or run the one you have, better. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 22:49:13 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Fashion Incubator » Ethics in clothing design 2 http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/ethics_in_clothing_design/comment-page-1/#comment-33874 Fashion Incubator » Ethics in clothing design 2 Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:25:20 +0000 http://www.fashion-incubator.com/2007/07/ethics_in_clothing_design/#comment-33874 [...] Posted by Kathleen Fasanella on Jul 19, 2007 at 1:46 pm / Intellectual Property, Patterns, Rants / Trackback [...] [...] Posted by Kathleen Fasanella on Jul 19, 2007 at 1:46 pm / Intellectual Property, Patterns, Rants / Trackback [...]

]]> By: Saremy Duffy http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/ethics_in_clothing_design/comment-page-1/#comment-7477 Saremy Duffy Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:14:10 +0000 http://www.fashion-incubator.com/2007/07/ethics_in_clothing_design/#comment-7477 My client emailed me this link to your article and I find it spot on. I continually tell me clients (as I am a patterndrafter), to send photos, garments, drawings, anything to get the point across so that I can best help them. If they want to duplicate a garment exactly, it is very tricky. My point is always, Why? Why would you compete against someone who already has their garment out there and probably manufacturered overseas where my start-up clients can only use domestic factories because of the minimums. They will never be able to compete with the original maker of that garment. (And usually, most do not intend to but plan on adding their flavor, as you put it, or differentiate in the other areas you mention-by the end, they won't even be in the same market anyway). In my estimate form, which acts as a contract as well, I specifically state that it is the client's responsibility to researach any patents and by and large, it's my patented clients who have me sign NDA's but there are the occasional few who are fashion-based and do not want to be copied. I am always happy to sign something for them but in reality, a pattern drafter is quite capable of making any product on his/her own-why would I copy? So I try and have them focus their form more on aspects that have to do with privacy and non-disclosure. I have a small library of patterns that I have made over the years that I use for blocks- I do not use other clients patterns for a different client. It is completely unethical-not to mention that it would be very obvious with minimal research for either to discover. Thank you for a clear outline of this not-so-secret 'secret'. I like to refer your site to many new clients. My client emailed me this link to your article and I find it spot on. I continually tell me clients (as I am a patterndrafter), to send photos, garments, drawings, anything to get the point across so that I can best help them. If they want to duplicate a garment exactly, it is very tricky. My point is always, Why? Why would you compete against someone who already has their garment out there and probably manufacturered overseas where my start-up clients can only use domestic factories because of the minimums. They will never be able to compete with the original maker of that garment. (And usually, most do not intend to but plan on adding their flavor, as you put it, or differentiate in the other areas you mention-by the end, they won’t even be in the same market anyway).

In my estimate form, which acts as a contract as well, I specifically state that it is the client’s responsibility to researach any patents and by and large, it’s my patented clients who have me sign NDA’s but there are the occasional few who are fashion-based and do not want to be copied. I am always happy to sign something for them but in reality, a pattern drafter is quite capable of making any product on his/her own-why would I copy? So I try and have them focus their form more on aspects that have to do with privacy and non-disclosure. I have a small library of patterns that I have made over the years that I use for blocks- I do not use other clients patterns for a different client. It is completely unethical-not to mention that it would be very obvious with minimal research for either to discover.

Thank you for a clear outline of this not-so-secret ’secret’. I like to refer your site to many new clients.

]]> By: sahara http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/ethics_in_clothing_design/comment-page-1/#comment-7476 sahara Wed, 18 Jul 2007 03:35:09 +0000 http://www.fashion-incubator.com/2007/07/ethics_in_clothing_design/#comment-7476 Wow! This is the best explanation for this process that I have ever heard. With my private sweater customers, I often have to work from photos, as knitting to them is complicated, and a photo helps them describe what they want, especially when it comes to stitch patterns. However, the problem lies when they bring me a photo of a garment that so and so celebrity has on, or a mag photo of a couture garment and want that. Then, I will tell them to save their money until they can go to the store and buy the original. In contrast DE's, especially young ones, get intimidated, or think I won't respect them if they use photos; so I sit and comically look at them make weird gestures, in describing to me what they want. Afterwards, I smile and tell them to bring me a pic. Wow! This is the best explanation for this process that I have ever heard.

With my private sweater customers, I often have to work from photos, as knitting to them is complicated, and a photo helps them describe what they want, especially when it comes to stitch patterns. However, the problem lies when they bring me a photo of a garment that so and so celebrity has on, or a mag photo of a couture garment and want that. Then, I will tell them to save their money until they can go to the store and buy the original.

In contrast DE’s, especially young ones, get intimidated, or think I won’t respect them if they use photos; so I sit and comically look at them make weird gestures, in describing to me what they want. Afterwards, I smile and tell them to bring me a pic.

]]> By: Pam http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/ethics_in_clothing_design/comment-page-1/#comment-7475 Pam Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:25:48 +0000 http://www.fashion-incubator.com/2007/07/ethics_in_clothing_design/#comment-7475 Thank you for this blog entry. I find it to be very much what I do and we always create our own patterns but do take inspiration from other places. Pam Thank you for this blog entry. I find it to be very much what I do and we always create our own patterns but do take inspiration from other places.

Pam

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