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		<title>By: Lisa B. in Portland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa B. in Portland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of these are really cool.  They remind me of the (black and white) photos I looked at recently in a suitcase of my maternal grandmother&#039;s.  There was an envelope of photos my grandfather took during WW2 when he was in Tunisia and Sicily in 1943-44.  Most are of scenery and the barracks and the towns but a couple are of I think General deGaulle and there&#039;s one of a wrecked Nazi plane and one of a wrecked Nazi tank, on both of which you can clearly see the swastikas.  One of my cool uncles took all the photos from my grandma&#039;s house to protect them from my uncool uncle while my grandma&#039;s in the nursing home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of these are really cool.  They remind me of the (black and white) photos I looked at recently in a suitcase of my maternal grandmother&#8217;s.  There was an envelope of photos my grandfather took during WW2 when he was in Tunisia and Sicily in 1943-44.  Most are of scenery and the barracks and the towns but a couple are of I think General deGaulle and there&#8217;s one of a wrecked Nazi plane and one of a wrecked Nazi tank, on both of which you can clearly see the swastikas.  One of my cool uncles took all the photos from my grandma&#8217;s house to protect them from my uncool uncle while my grandma&#8217;s in the nursing home.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In photo after photo, each woman is described in the context of her relationship to men and her function.&quot;

It isn&#039;t so much their relationship to men but a depiction of their personal sacrifice.  They are invested in what they are doing because their loved ones are in the war.  It is real to them.  Now days you would also see daughters, neices, moms, and aunts names listed.

I know there are many things I actually do, instead of just thinking of them, because my son is a Marine.  I know what it is like to have a loved one gone.  It helps to feel connected to him even if it doesn&#039;t directly affect him.

Interesting, I never thought to ask my Grandmother what she did during the war while my Grandfather was gone.  I know after the war she became a nurse and supported the family while he retrained for another profession.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In photo after photo, each woman is described in the context of her relationship to men and her function.&#8221;</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t so much their relationship to men but a depiction of their personal sacrifice.  They are invested in what they are doing because their loved ones are in the war.  It is real to them.  Now days you would also see daughters, neices, moms, and aunts names listed.</p>
<p>I know there are many things I actually do, instead of just thinking of them, because my son is a Marine.  I know what it is like to have a loved one gone.  It helps to feel connected to him even if it doesn&#8217;t directly affect him.</p>
<p>Interesting, I never thought to ask my Grandmother what she did during the war while my Grandfather was gone.  I know after the war she became a nurse and supported the family while he retrained for another profession.</p>
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		<title>By: Dia in MA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dia in MA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Carol. I did mean hand tinted like you said. It used to  be a very common way of getting a color photo portrait before Kodachrome became common. Nearly every region had someone like your grandfather who did this professionally. It was even done to some of the earliest color movies, which must have been an incredible amount of labor.

However, if you&#039;ve ever seen a genuine Norman Rockwell close up, he actually did paint to an almost photographic level of detail. I grew up in the area where he lived. The local museum almost always had a few of his paintings on display and I remember reading articles of how the art world criticized his work for that photographic quality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Carol. I did mean hand tinted like you said. It used to  be a very common way of getting a color photo portrait before Kodachrome became common. Nearly every region had someone like your grandfather who did this professionally. It was even done to some of the earliest color movies, which must have been an incredible amount of labor.</p>
<p>However, if you&#8217;ve ever seen a genuine Norman Rockwell close up, he actually did paint to an almost photographic level of detail. I grew up in the area where he lived. The local museum almost always had a few of his paintings on display and I remember reading articles of how the art world criticized his work for that photographic quality.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol  Kimball</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol  Kimball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe Dia meant hand-tinted, i.e. shot in black and white (hence the amazing detail) and colored with transparent oils. My grandfather did a lot of this, about the same era.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe Dia meant hand-tinted, i.e. shot in black and white (hence the amazing detail) and colored with transparent oils. My grandfather did a lot of this, about the same era.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernadine in MA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernadine in MA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 11:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing Kathleen. I too will be checking out the Library of Congress&#039; photos. Very Nice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing Kathleen. I too will be checking out the Library of Congress&#8217; photos. Very Nice.</p>
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		<title>By: David S</title>
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		<dc:creator>David S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope.  These are scans of the transparencies, as they came back from the lab.   I&#039;m looking at the TIFF version of &quot;Rural school children, San Augustine County, Texas&quot; (not on flickr, but available from the LOC&#039;s website.  It&#039;s 138 MB.)  If someone were to have painted a picture like this, they wouldn&#039;t have got the bits of stray thread on their clothes, the amazing collection of stains on the clothes, nor their general grubbiness. 

These color slides are mostly kodachrome sheet film (4X5, most likely).  They&#039;re of amazingly high level of detail, tonal range, contrast range.  (In the full quality version, you can see that the topstiching of the kid in the tan&#039;s shirt left pocket is coming loose.  You can see the shadow the loose thread casts.) In a lot of ways, these are higher quality pictures that anything that&#039;s shot today.  You think they&#039;re painted, because you&#039;re used to looking at grainy color print film, and more recently, bad digital images.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope.  These are scans of the transparencies, as they came back from the lab.   I&#8217;m looking at the TIFF version of &#8220;Rural school children, San Augustine County, Texas&#8221; (not on flickr, but available from the LOC&#8217;s website.  It&#8217;s 138 MB.)  If someone were to have painted a picture like this, they wouldn&#8217;t have got the bits of stray thread on their clothes, the amazing collection of stains on the clothes, nor their general grubbiness. </p>
<p>These color slides are mostly kodachrome sheet film (4X5, most likely).  They&#8217;re of amazingly high level of detail, tonal range, contrast range.  (In the full quality version, you can see that the topstiching of the kid in the tan&#8217;s shirt left pocket is coming loose.  You can see the shadow the loose thread casts.) In a lot of ways, these are higher quality pictures that anything that&#8217;s shot today.  You think they&#8217;re painted, because you&#8217;re used to looking at grainy color print film, and more recently, bad digital images.</p>
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		<title>By: Dia in MA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dia in MA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a very strong suspicion that some of those photos are painted, i.e., artist colorations. This was a very common technique up until the mid to late 1960s.  My family has some from that era. The artists were amazingly good at hand colorizing black and white photos to look lifelike.

In particular, the picture of the 3 boys looks like this method was probably used. The colors and shadows are a bit too good and a bit too Norman Rockwell for a photo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a very strong suspicion that some of those photos are painted, i.e., artist colorations. This was a very common technique up until the mid to late 1960s.  My family has some from that era. The artists were amazingly good at hand colorizing black and white photos to look lifelike.</p>
<p>In particular, the picture of the 3 boys looks like this method was probably used. The colors and shadows are a bit too good and a bit too Norman Rockwell for a photo.</p>
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		<title>By: David S</title>
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		<dc:creator>David S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The picture of the woman testing components is a studio shot.  [well, it might have shot in the factory, but not when they were actually working]  It&#039;s shot on Kodachrome sheet film; the kodachrome that was available during the war was amazingly slow (insensitive to light.), and required massive flashes to expose.  The quality of the images it took are just amazing (and it&#039;ll look good long after we&#039;re all dead).  I&#039;m sure she dressed up for the photo shoot.  oh, and it&#039;s not a pen she has in her hand, it&#039;s a flashlight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The picture of the woman testing components is a studio shot.  [well, it might have shot in the factory, but not when they were actually working]  It&#8217;s shot on Kodachrome sheet film; the kodachrome that was available during the war was amazingly slow (insensitive to light.), and required massive flashes to expose.  The quality of the images it took are just amazing (and it&#8217;ll look good long after we&#8217;re all dead).  I&#8217;m sure she dressed up for the photo shoot.  oh, and it&#8217;s not a pen she has in her hand, it&#8217;s a flashlight.</p>
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		<title>By: emily</title>
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		<dc:creator>emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow fantastic find - thanks Kathleen!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow fantastic find &#8211; thanks Kathleen!</p>
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