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		<title>By: Kathleen Fasanella</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/grading_childrens_clothes_pt1/comment-page-1/#comment-56791</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen Fasanella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 16:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome link, and annoyed they were, to the tune of 358 comments! I should ask Bente to go by there.

I plugged the text into a translator and glean that Lindex said boy&#039;s clothes are longer to permit greater range of motion. Because they do that you know. Said blogger was not amused and said something to the effect that &quot;welcome to Lindex, our girl&#039;s clothes have built-in motion restriction.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome link, and annoyed they were, to the tune of 358 comments! I should ask Bente to go by there.</p>
<p>I plugged the text into a translator and glean that Lindex said boy&#8217;s clothes are longer to permit greater range of motion. Because they do that you know. Said blogger was not amused and said something to the effect that &#8220;welcome to Lindex, our girl&#8217;s clothes have built-in motion restriction.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Quincunx</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/grading_childrens_clothes_pt1/comment-page-1/#comment-56788</link>
		<dc:creator>Quincunx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;standard&quot; system exists in some places--and it does NOT help when trying to pick the same number, every time!  Just received a link to a &lt;a href=&quot;http://ennyblogg.blogspot.com/2011/01/om-klara-ar-116-cm-och-kalle-ar-116-cm.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Swedish blog&lt;/a&gt; where a shopper, accustomed to shopping in a system where the size numbers are standardized by height, is nonetheless frustrated when the garments of the same number are not the same size. . .  (The title:  If Klara [girl] is 116cm and Kalle [boy] is 116cm, how much taller is Kalle?.  The measurements:  In mass-market size 116, presumed to fit a 116cm tall child, the boys&#039; shirts had 4cm longer sleeves, 5cm broader chest, and &quot;larger&quot; armholes.  [Nor are these just variations within manufacturing tolerances, given the number of comments complaining about the same mismatch of boy/girl &#039;cut&#039; across sizes and across retailers.]  The solution:  The same child is clothed 1 to 2 sizes larger in girls&#039; shirts.)  What baffles me about this is that the manufacturers and retailers incurred the expense of differentiating girls&#039; and boys&#039; cuts and all it did was annoy shoppers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;standard&#8221; system exists in some places&#8211;and it does NOT help when trying to pick the same number, every time!  Just received a link to a <a href="http://ennyblogg.blogspot.com/2011/01/om-klara-ar-116-cm-och-kalle-ar-116-cm.html" rel="nofollow">Swedish blog</a> where a shopper, accustomed to shopping in a system where the size numbers are standardized by height, is nonetheless frustrated when the garments of the same number are not the same size. . .  (The title:  If Klara [girl] is 116cm and Kalle [boy] is 116cm, how much taller is Kalle?.  The measurements:  In mass-market size 116, presumed to fit a 116cm tall child, the boys&#8217; shirts had 4cm longer sleeves, 5cm broader chest, and &#8220;larger&#8221; armholes.  [Nor are these just variations within manufacturing tolerances, given the number of comments complaining about the same mismatch of boy/girl 'cut' across sizes and across retailers.]  The solution:  The same child is clothed 1 to 2 sizes larger in girls&#8217; shirts.)  What baffles me about this is that the manufacturers and retailers incurred the expense of differentiating girls&#8217; and boys&#8217; cuts and all it did was annoy shoppers.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen Fasanella</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/grading_childrens_clothes_pt1/comment-page-1/#comment-56779</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen Fasanella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 14:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It doesn’t seem like there is much standard on children’s sizes... It would be nice if there was a more standard system. Maybe one day?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I certainly hope not. The very idea makes me shiver all over. The day children&#039;s sizes become standardized is the day all same-aged children are the same height/weight and with the same shapes. The only way I see that happening is if children are bio-engineered the same way tomatoes and cotton are. What would Monsanto call that variety? M-Sano Kid®? I wait with bated breath...

[notwithstanding &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/the-sizing-police-of-childrens-clothes/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CPSC efforts&lt;/a&gt; to attempt it]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It doesn’t seem like there is much standard on children’s sizes&#8230; It would be nice if there was a more standard system. Maybe one day?</p></blockquote>
<p>I certainly hope not. The very idea makes me shiver all over. The day children&#8217;s sizes become standardized is the day all same-aged children are the same height/weight and with the same shapes. The only way I see that happening is if children are bio-engineered the same way tomatoes and cotton are. What would Monsanto call that variety? M-Sano Kid®? I wait with bated breath&#8230;</p>
<p>[notwithstanding <a href="http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/the-sizing-police-of-childrens-clothes/" rel="nofollow">CPSC efforts</a> to attempt it]</p>
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		<title>By: Natalie Dalton</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/grading_childrens_clothes_pt1/comment-page-1/#comment-56725</link>
		<dc:creator>Natalie Dalton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 21:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t seem like there is much standard on children&#039;s sizes. I have to buy several differences sizes depending on whether I am buying jeans or a gymnastics leotards. It would be nice if there was a more standard system. Maybe one day?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t seem like there is much standard on children&#8217;s sizes. I have to buy several differences sizes depending on whether I am buying jeans or a gymnastics leotards. It would be nice if there was a more standard system. Maybe one day?</p>
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		<title>By: Fashion Incubator » The sizing police of children’s clothes</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/grading_childrens_clothes_pt1/comment-page-1/#comment-38367</link>
		<dc:creator>Fashion Incubator » The sizing police of children’s clothes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2011 23:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] very old, circa the 1920’s. There is a newer data set (the CS151-50, my entries on it are here and here) which is itself dated but still closer to reflecting the increased girth and height of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] very old, circa the 1920’s. There is a newer data set (the CS151-50, my entries on it are here and here) which is itself dated but still closer to reflecting the increased girth and height of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/grading_childrens_clothes_pt1/comment-page-1/#comment-28674</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 17:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kiki, I googled it and it took me right to it. I&#039;ve updated the links, thanks for the heads up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kiki, I googled it and it took me right to it. I&#8217;ve updated the links, thanks for the heads up.</p>
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		<title>By: Fashion Incubator » Grading children’s clothes pt.2</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/grading_childrens_clothes_pt1/comment-page-1/#comment-28672</link>
		<dc:creator>Fashion Incubator » Grading children’s clothes pt.2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 17:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I’d been meaning to get back to the entry I started on grading children’s clothes before now. Returning to the previous discussion of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I’d been meaning to get back to the entry I started on grading children’s clothes before now. Returning to the previous discussion of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kiki</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/grading_childrens_clothes_pt1/comment-page-1/#comment-28607</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 03:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The links are no longer working for the CS151-50....Any other way to find the document? Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The links are no longer working for the CS151-50&#8230;.Any other way to find the document? Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: megan</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/grading_childrens_clothes_pt1/comment-page-1/#comment-24700</link>
		<dc:creator>megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is so helpful...as I was beginning to feel a little helpLESS! I&#039;m just starting out and every old text book I review has different measurments. Also, each little 3T model I measure is unique in size and shape. Hmmm...I find it oddly encouraging that some of you are just now getting it right after 3 years (and am a little stressed out to know that I could potentially send out 6 seasons worth of ill fitting garments before I catch on to the secret)! Eeek. 

Thanks for the guidance! And PLEASE keep it coming!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so helpful&#8230;as I was beginning to feel a little helpLESS! I&#8217;m just starting out and every old text book I review has different measurments. Also, each little 3T model I measure is unique in size and shape. Hmmm&#8230;I find it oddly encouraging that some of you are just now getting it right after 3 years (and am a little stressed out to know that I could potentially send out 6 seasons worth of ill fitting garments before I catch on to the secret)! Eeek. </p>
<p>Thanks for the guidance! And PLEASE keep it coming!</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/grading_childrens_clothes_pt1/comment-page-1/#comment-24116</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 19:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judy, this is a very complex question but I do understand how one could think it should be simple. Fact is, grades can be just as individualized as a given designer&#039;s styles. Alison&#039;s suggestion to confer in the forum is helpful because determining what you need requires the input and experiences of people who have been grading for a long time and in order to get definitive answers, you need to provide somewhat proprietary information (sketches, size tolerances etc) that should not be public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judy, this is a very complex question but I do understand how one could think it should be simple. Fact is, grades can be just as individualized as a given designer&#8217;s styles. Alison&#8217;s suggestion to confer in the forum is helpful because determining what you need requires the input and experiences of people who have been grading for a long time and in order to get definitive answers, you need to provide somewhat proprietary information (sketches, size tolerances etc) that should not be public.</p>
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