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		<title>By: Trisha Stevens</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/how-to-enter-the-us-market-from-a-contractor/comment-page-1/#comment-13147</link>
		<dc:creator>Trisha Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 22:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is FI anyway?  I&#039;m new to this so some names are unknown.  Is there a website for this?  

Thanks, Trisha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is FI anyway?  I&#8217;m new to this so some names are unknown.  Is there a website for this?  </p>
<p>Thanks, Trisha</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/how-to-enter-the-us-market-from-a-contractor/comment-page-1/#comment-11733</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I am looking for a manufacturer as well as a pattern maker for a new line of ladies clothing. Do you have any suggestions. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

This isn&#039;t the answer you were looking for (suggested names of businesses) but it explains why we don&#039;t list contractors on the site and how to go about finding them the way we do.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/how_to_find_sewing_contractors/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How to find sewing contractors&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/how-to-find-help-in-the-apparel-industry-for-nearly-nothing/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How to find help in the apparel industry for nearly nothing&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I am looking for a manufacturer as well as a pattern maker for a new line of ladies clothing. Do you have any suggestions. </p></blockquote>
<p>This isn&#8217;t the answer you were looking for (suggested names of businesses) but it explains why we don&#8217;t list contractors on the site and how to go about finding them the way we do.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/how_to_find_sewing_contractors/" rel="nofollow">How to find sewing contractors</a><br />
<a href="http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/how-to-find-help-in-the-apparel-industry-for-nearly-nothing/" rel="nofollow">How to find help in the apparel industry for nearly nothing</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Bruner</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/how-to-enter-the-us-market-from-a-contractor/comment-page-1/#comment-11731</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda Bruner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am looking for a manufacturer as well as a pattern maker for a new line of ladies clothing.  Do you have any suggestions.  I think I prefer to stay in the U.S.  but not opposed to going out of the country.. Thanks Linda</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am looking for a manufacturer as well as a pattern maker for a new line of ladies clothing.  Do you have any suggestions.  I think I prefer to stay in the U.S.  but not opposed to going out of the country.. Thanks Linda</p>
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		<title>By: Timmy</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/how-to-enter-the-us-market-from-a-contractor/comment-page-1/#comment-11669</link>
		<dc:creator>Timmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 09:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rocio, 
Thanks for the advice. It&#039;s funny you mentioned setting up an export operation. I&#039;ll be joining a garment export organization here in Manila and participating in their seminars next week. Paperwork and packaging are the issues that I plan on learning more about and of course other things such as quality control requirements and production layouts. 

Vesta,
Small, high value runs indeed. I&#039;m weary of those big corporations. The demands they impose are sometimes too stringent financially and they aren&#039;t as operation-wise flexible. I believe in all likelihood I&#039;d be dealing with owners if it were smaller to medium sized brands, something I&#039;d enjoy since I have my own brand here in Manila on the side. I actually do have a blog right now but it is more trend oriented as per Kathleen&#039;s analysis. I include snippets of the operation floor at times but nowhere near the detail it should be. This may change though in the future. 

On a side note, I&#039;ll be joining you all shortly at the forums. Just purchased the book. The amount of advice and guidance I&#039;ve received in the comments section alone warrants the purchase of Kathleen&#039;s book. I don&#039;t mean to sound canned but I think it is an investment worth its weight (250 pages plus I believe).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rocio,<br />
Thanks for the advice. It&#8217;s funny you mentioned setting up an export operation. I&#8217;ll be joining a garment export organization here in Manila and participating in their seminars next week. Paperwork and packaging are the issues that I plan on learning more about and of course other things such as quality control requirements and production layouts. </p>
<p>Vesta,<br />
Small, high value runs indeed. I&#8217;m weary of those big corporations. The demands they impose are sometimes too stringent financially and they aren&#8217;t as operation-wise flexible. I believe in all likelihood I&#8217;d be dealing with owners if it were smaller to medium sized brands, something I&#8217;d enjoy since I have my own brand here in Manila on the side. I actually do have a blog right now but it is more trend oriented as per Kathleen&#8217;s analysis. I include snippets of the operation floor at times but nowhere near the detail it should be. This may change though in the future. </p>
<p>On a side note, I&#8217;ll be joining you all shortly at the forums. Just purchased the book. The amount of advice and guidance I&#8217;ve received in the comments section alone warrants the purchase of Kathleen&#8217;s book. I don&#8217;t mean to sound canned but I think it is an investment worth its weight (250 pages plus I believe).</p>
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		<title>By: Vesta</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/how-to-enter-the-us-market-from-a-contractor/comment-page-1/#comment-11666</link>
		<dc:creator>Vesta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 02:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;the carbon footprint I&#039;d make by shipping by air (which is pretty much how everyone does it)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This totally depends on the size of your orders. We ship by sea, in partial container loads. We&#039;d never ship production orders by air because of the expense, but our batches are presumably larger than many.

Even if a factory doesn&#039;t know about logistics, they just need to team up with a shipping specialist that they trust. You can find these people in any country, who can take the shipment from the factory (and presumably advise them on how best to pack the shipment safely) and shepherd it through to the final destination. My experience is that you&#039;ll pay the factory for the goods separately from these brokers. We use a big brokerage company for our Indian shipments, but from Guatemala we use a one-man operation. Both were recommended as reliable by the factories.

On top of the things already mentioned in the previous comments, I would look for:

-A willingness to make small batches, even if you have to increase the price based on volume.
-A willingness to work with escrow accounts (we&#039;ve used escrow.com, which was easy-cheesey). You&#039;ll find quite a few experienced manufacturers who absolutely will not exchange money until they&#039;ve inspected the shipment.

I&#039;d also like to reiterate that you need to be familiar with the testing companies who work in your country (SGS most likely does, for one - sgs.com). They can run any tests needed by your clients, as well as perform audits on your facilities, if needed.

I loooove the blog idea. If you would really open the door to the internal machinations of your house, I think you wouldn&#039;t even need to travel to shows to sign up new clients. Talk about problems you run into, and how you deal with them. Talk about really basic stuff like how dyeing works. Talk about your adventures sourcing yarn for production. Talk about your people, &lt;i&gt;a lot&lt;/i&gt;. Between the blog and interacting with people in the F-I forum, you could make one annual trip to the US (say, for MAGIC) to connect with your clients, and you&#039;d have tons of business.

This is all assuming that you&#039;re wanting to focus on small, high-value business. If your goal is pulling in Wal-Mart-type accounts, then disregard everything I just said, lol. But if you&#039;re trying to figure out your value proposition, I submit that you should focus on small, high-value runs. The biggest problem that I&#039;ve run into is embellishments. In the U.S., most small manufacturers have trouble meeting minimums that allow them to affordably create uniguely-embellished products (embroidery, screen printing, etc).

Wow. Sorry so long. If you want to talk more, you can email/PM me directly through the forum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>the carbon footprint I&#8217;d make by shipping by air (which is pretty much how everyone does it)</p></blockquote>
<p>This totally depends on the size of your orders. We ship by sea, in partial container loads. We&#8217;d never ship production orders by air because of the expense, but our batches are presumably larger than many.</p>
<p>Even if a factory doesn&#8217;t know about logistics, they just need to team up with a shipping specialist that they trust. You can find these people in any country, who can take the shipment from the factory (and presumably advise them on how best to pack the shipment safely) and shepherd it through to the final destination. My experience is that you&#8217;ll pay the factory for the goods separately from these brokers. We use a big brokerage company for our Indian shipments, but from Guatemala we use a one-man operation. Both were recommended as reliable by the factories.</p>
<p>On top of the things already mentioned in the previous comments, I would look for:</p>
<p>-A willingness to make small batches, even if you have to increase the price based on volume.<br />
-A willingness to work with escrow accounts (we&#8217;ve used escrow.com, which was easy-cheesey). You&#8217;ll find quite a few experienced manufacturers who absolutely will not exchange money until they&#8217;ve inspected the shipment.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like to reiterate that you need to be familiar with the testing companies who work in your country (SGS most likely does, for one &#8211; sgs.com). They can run any tests needed by your clients, as well as perform audits on your facilities, if needed.</p>
<p>I loooove the blog idea. If you would really open the door to the internal machinations of your house, I think you wouldn&#8217;t even need to travel to shows to sign up new clients. Talk about problems you run into, and how you deal with them. Talk about really basic stuff like how dyeing works. Talk about your adventures sourcing yarn for production. Talk about your people, <i>a lot</i>. Between the blog and interacting with people in the F-I forum, you could make one annual trip to the US (say, for MAGIC) to connect with your clients, and you&#8217;d have tons of business.</p>
<p>This is all assuming that you&#8217;re wanting to focus on small, high-value business. If your goal is pulling in Wal-Mart-type accounts, then disregard everything I just said, lol. But if you&#8217;re trying to figure out your value proposition, I submit that you should focus on small, high-value runs. The biggest problem that I&#8217;ve run into is embellishments. In the U.S., most small manufacturers have trouble meeting minimums that allow them to affordably create uniguely-embellished products (embroidery, screen printing, etc).</p>
<p>Wow. Sorry so long. If you want to talk more, you can email/PM me directly through the forum.</p>
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		<title>By: Victoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Having my own pattern makers, the advice they give is invaluable as a source of where I take certain designs to full production. We don’t have any plotting machines and the like, so it’s a real hands on manual task which makes me appreciate the whole process even more. A wrong pattern or layout could mean money wasted on excess or wrongly cut fabric scraps.&quot;

Timmy,
I value the manual patternmakers. It is only a frustration with an inconsistent product that makes me consider CAD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Having my own pattern makers, the advice they give is invaluable as a source of where I take certain designs to full production. We don’t have any plotting machines and the like, so it’s a real hands on manual task which makes me appreciate the whole process even more. A wrong pattern or layout could mean money wasted on excess or wrongly cut fabric scraps.&#8221;</p>
<p>Timmy,<br />
I value the manual patternmakers. It is only a frustration with an inconsistent product that makes me consider CAD.</p>
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		<title>By: Rocio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rocio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timmy,

I think your best bet is to:

A) Determine the market you are most suitable to set up and export operation for (USA, EU, Japan, Dubai) because laws, standards and market structure are very different
B) Decide what sort of presence you want to keep in your main export area (sourcing office, agent, website, trade shows)
C) At first, focus on a specific product type and price point to penetrate your target market with (budget, moderate, designer, menswear, womenswear, childrens)
D) Invest in tools that promote consistency and encourage constant communication (CAD/CAM, PDM etc)

As a domestic US manufacturer, I don&#039;t feel threatened by off-shore factories because I have been in both situations and know first hand the pros and cons of each situation.... (Worked in Production for global retailers , been an Agent, Importer, Exporter, DE, Merchandiser, etc)
With that in mind, I&#039;ve found that the market has room for both options.                         

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timmy,</p>
<p>I think your best bet is to:</p>
<p>A) Determine the market you are most suitable to set up and export operation for (USA, EU, Japan, Dubai) because laws, standards and market structure are very different<br />
B) Decide what sort of presence you want to keep in your main export area (sourcing office, agent, website, trade shows)<br />
C) At first, focus on a specific product type and price point to penetrate your target market with (budget, moderate, designer, menswear, womenswear, childrens)<br />
D) Invest in tools that promote consistency and encourage constant communication (CAD/CAM, PDM etc)</p>
<p>As a domestic US manufacturer, I don&#8217;t feel threatened by off-shore factories because I have been in both situations and know first hand the pros and cons of each situation&#8230;. (Worked in Production for global retailers , been an Agent, Importer, Exporter, DE, Merchandiser, etc)<br />
With that in mind, I&#8217;ve found that the market has room for both options.                         </p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Timmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 08:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pam,

Thanks for the reminder. I almost forgot about Alibaba.com, although you really do have to be careful with the amount of spam that goes through that site. I don&#039;t bother checking my mail there because of the amount of nonsense that goes through the inbox. But I guess if you become a premium member you get better quality inquiries and leads. Information overload but once you filter it down there are great suppliers there. 

After browsing this site and corresponding with the owner Kathleen, FI seems like a viable alternative the additional thing being that you learn so much more on an operational standpoint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pam,</p>
<p>Thanks for the reminder. I almost forgot about Alibaba.com, although you really do have to be careful with the amount of spam that goes through that site. I don&#8217;t bother checking my mail there because of the amount of nonsense that goes through the inbox. But I guess if you become a premium member you get better quality inquiries and leads. Information overload but once you filter it down there are great suppliers there. </p>
<p>After browsing this site and corresponding with the owner Kathleen, FI seems like a viable alternative the additional thing being that you learn so much more on an operational standpoint.</p>
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		<title>By: Leah Barrett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leah Barrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was so happy reading this post and the comments. For the first time I got the sense that people are beginning to understand how connected the global community is. 
My advice; Look for the brands&#039;, stores&#039;, importers&#039; names and product line descriptions from business development organisations and directories, and do the research to find the ones that closely match what you have to offer. Buyers are looking for suppliers with factories very experienced in handling specifically what they want to buy, the more closely related and focussed the better. 
I agree eco friendly and ethical business models will also get more attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was so happy reading this post and the comments. For the first time I got the sense that people are beginning to understand how connected the global community is.<br />
My advice; Look for the brands&#8217;, stores&#8217;, importers&#8217; names and product line descriptions from business development organisations and directories, and do the research to find the ones that closely match what you have to offer. Buyers are looking for suppliers with factories very experienced in handling specifically what they want to buy, the more closely related and focussed the better.<br />
I agree eco friendly and ethical business models will also get more attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Pam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I probably did one of the riskiest things and don&#039;t know if I would do it again.  I did not know about FI at the time, was just starting out and had been on some other wholesale forums on the internet.  I posted that I was looking for a specific type of clothing and I got a response from the person who is now our manufacturer in Pakistan.  We talked on the phone, she sent me photos of samples, I then purchased samples and she sent them to me.  Honestly, it took at least a year of back and forth to start to feel comfortable with the whole process.  I still have not gone there even though I really want to.  

But one place Timmy you can post your offerings would be on Alibaba and some of the other wholesale websites, they are out there and I  know people use them.  It is a point of contact at least unless you can come in person to some of the fabric tradeshows even if it is to just walk them to talk to people that way.

I believe the same as Marguerite, our factory in Pakistan is now responsible for about 30 families there.  They like their work, come to work every day, know they have a job, life is a little more bearable there for them.  Sure, if I had this same contact here in the US I would use US manufacturing but the cards fell how they did.

Pam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I probably did one of the riskiest things and don&#8217;t know if I would do it again.  I did not know about FI at the time, was just starting out and had been on some other wholesale forums on the internet.  I posted that I was looking for a specific type of clothing and I got a response from the person who is now our manufacturer in Pakistan.  We talked on the phone, she sent me photos of samples, I then purchased samples and she sent them to me.  Honestly, it took at least a year of back and forth to start to feel comfortable with the whole process.  I still have not gone there even though I really want to.  </p>
<p>But one place Timmy you can post your offerings would be on Alibaba and some of the other wholesale websites, they are out there and I  know people use them.  It is a point of contact at least unless you can come in person to some of the fabric tradeshows even if it is to just walk them to talk to people that way.</p>
<p>I believe the same as Marguerite, our factory in Pakistan is now responsible for about 30 families there.  They like their work, come to work every day, know they have a job, life is a little more bearable there for them.  Sure, if I had this same contact here in the US I would use US manufacturing but the cards fell how they did.</p>
<p>Pam</p>
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