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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a start up collection, how many pcs is best to start with and does the &quot;pcs&quot; mean &quot;oufit&quot; or 1 - blouse , 1 pants etc.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a start up collection, how many pcs is best to start with and does the &#8220;pcs&#8221; mean &#8220;oufit&#8221; or 1 &#8211; blouse , 1 pants etc.</p>
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		<title>By: La BellaDonna</title>
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		<dc:creator>La BellaDonna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 21:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like American Blouse Company just fine, myself.  It says what it is, no murky misinterpretations.  And I&#039;d like to put a plug in emphasizing vintage details (still hoping for pretty details on those &lt;i&gt;sleeveless&lt;/i&gt; blouses too), especially the type which might be finished with a small peplum, so you  that if you wear a blouse untucked, you still look dressed when you take your suit jacket off (for those of us who don&#039;t like the bulk of something tucked in or who are obfuscating the fit of skirts or trousers).  For those who like cottons, you might want to look into Foxfibre fabrics (Colours of Arizona) - the cotton is &lt;i&gt;grown&lt;/i&gt; in colours and not dyed; I believe green and brown are among the colours available.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like American Blouse Company just fine, myself.  It says what it is, no murky misinterpretations.  And I&#8217;d like to put a plug in emphasizing vintage details (still hoping for pretty details on those <i>sleeveless</i> blouses too), especially the type which might be finished with a small peplum, so you  that if you wear a blouse untucked, you still look dressed when you take your suit jacket off (for those of us who don&#8217;t like the bulk of something tucked in or who are obfuscating the fit of skirts or trousers).  For those who like cottons, you might want to look into Foxfibre fabrics (Colours of Arizona) &#8211; the cotton is <i>grown</i> in colours and not dyed; I believe green and brown are among the colours available.</p>
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		<title>By: Alison Cummins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alison Cummins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 13:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, absolutely, American Blouse Company is just fine. Just pointing out that it will &quot;read&quot; a little differently in the export market from the way it reads in the US, and that Kathleen will need to decide that she&#039;s cool with that.

In the US, &quot;made in the USA&quot; means &quot;home-grown.&quot; Outside the US - say, in Canada or Hong Kong or England - it can mean many different things: &quot;made in yet another foreign country,&quot; &quot;made by evil imperialists,&quot; &quot;made by cool innovators,&quot; &quot;made in a country that reduces corporate costs by denying health insurance to those most in need,&quot; &quot;made by people who know how to do things right,&quot; &quot;made in a country with a decent minimum wage.&quot;

I&#039;m not saying that all of these connotations are right or appropriate, or suggesting that they are all equally distributed among the target clientÃ¨le, just that from a branding/marketing perspective you have much less control over the meaning of &quot;American&quot; once it crosses the border.

Kathleen may decide that her blouses are going to serve as ambassadors for her country, adding the connotation &quot;makers of damn fine blouses&quot; to the already very long list of connotations for &quot;American.&quot; Which is very cool, and I can&#039;t and won&#039;t argue.

Just noting that it&#039;s a decision to be made thoughtfully. EOM
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, absolutely, American Blouse Company is just fine. Just pointing out that it will &#8220;read&#8221; a little differently in the export market from the way it reads in the US, and that Kathleen will need to decide that she&#8217;s cool with that.</p>
<p>In the US, &#8220;made in the USA&#8221; means &#8220;home-grown.&#8221; Outside the US &#8211; say, in Canada or Hong Kong or England &#8211; it can mean many different things: &#8220;made in yet another foreign country,&#8221; &#8220;made by evil imperialists,&#8221; &#8220;made by cool innovators,&#8221; &#8220;made in a country that reduces corporate costs by denying health insurance to those most in need,&#8221; &#8220;made by people who know how to do things right,&#8221; &#8220;made in a country with a decent minimum wage.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that all of these connotations are right or appropriate, or suggesting that they are all equally distributed among the target clientÃ¨le, just that from a branding/marketing perspective you have much less control over the meaning of &#8220;American&#8221; once it crosses the border.</p>
<p>Kathleen may decide that her blouses are going to serve as ambassadors for her country, adding the connotation &#8220;makers of damn fine blouses&#8221; to the already very long list of connotations for &#8220;American.&#8221; Which is very cool, and I can&#8217;t and won&#8217;t argue.</p>
<p>Just noting that it&#8217;s a decision to be made thoughtfully. EOM</p>
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		<title>By: SB</title>
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		<dc:creator>SB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2006 01:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>American Apparel has made the same political statement and made it work quite well. I think American Blouse Company speaks to the same issues, and is just fine.

But then again, I&#039;m an American. So my view is biased. I guess it means so much to me to believe that US production can work well, that I hope the other political connotations will be forgiven.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>American Apparel has made the same political statement and made it work quite well. I think American Blouse Company speaks to the same issues, and is just fine.</p>
<p>But then again, I&#8217;m an American. So my view is biased. I guess it means so much to me to believe that US production can work well, that I hope the other political connotations will be forgiven.</p>
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		<title>By: Alison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 16:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know people have been saying that &quot;American Blouse Company&quot; is too simple and boring for a brand, but the clean old-fashioned simplicity of the name is what I love about it.

As a Canadian with dual (American) citizenship, my concern is that it sounds political.

Now I know that for Kathleen, it is: she is making the statement that American manufacturers can be successful. She wants to make that point, and it&#039;s an important one. I also know that in these troubled times, many Americans will be pleased to see the name of their country associated with something as simple and pleasing as a well-cut, locally-made blouse.

But outside the US, specifically in these troubled times, &quot;American&quot; can have connotations of things that we&#039;d rather not think about, and that may discourage potential customers.

This may not be an issue: many of the deep pockets that will pay $250 for a blouse to wear to work are found in the US. But it might be: with the projected economic downturn in the US, the blouse might actually be sold at a lower price point as an export because of lower exchange rates, and Kathleen will not want to alienate the export market.

What about &quot;Kathleen&#039;s Blouse&quot;? Also simple, and makes an alternative political point about women in manufacturing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know people have been saying that &#8220;American Blouse Company&#8221; is too simple and boring for a brand, but the clean old-fashioned simplicity of the name is what I love about it.</p>
<p>As a Canadian with dual (American) citizenship, my concern is that it sounds political.</p>
<p>Now I know that for Kathleen, it is: she is making the statement that American manufacturers can be successful. She wants to make that point, and it&#8217;s an important one. I also know that in these troubled times, many Americans will be pleased to see the name of their country associated with something as simple and pleasing as a well-cut, locally-made blouse.</p>
<p>But outside the US, specifically in these troubled times, &#8220;American&#8221; can have connotations of things that we&#8217;d rather not think about, and that may discourage potential customers.</p>
<p>This may not be an issue: many of the deep pockets that will pay $250 for a blouse to wear to work are found in the US. But it might be: with the projected economic downturn in the US, the blouse might actually be sold at a lower price point as an export because of lower exchange rates, and Kathleen will not want to alienate the export market.</p>
<p>What about &#8220;Kathleen&#8217;s Blouse&#8221;? Also simple, and makes an alternative political point about women in manufacturing.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 22:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think your idea for creating a line with only a few styles and one fabric is great. I think your target audience would shell out $250 easily, if you incorporate a distinct fabric and impeccable
workmanship. In England, Turnbull and Asser have been making fine white shirts for men since medieval times ( OK,I think since Victorian times), and they go for alot more than $250. They of course over the years, have added different variations, but their # seller is the mens L/S
Fr.Cuffed shirt. They do business alongside the finest tailors on Saville Row, who also made shirts, but they made them better. I guess they just focused on making shirts, and making them well. Kathleen, while you are at it, why not throw in a few men&#039;s styles ? I think a high end shirt purchased for Fathers Day from your company would be well received by any Dad. And I hope you get rich while doing it too.  Do you have any leeway on your labels name ? American Blouse is kinda boring.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your idea for creating a line with only a few styles and one fabric is great. I think your target audience would shell out $250 easily, if you incorporate a distinct fabric and impeccable<br />
workmanship. In England, Turnbull and Asser have been making fine white shirts for men since medieval times ( OK,I think since Victorian times), and they go for alot more than $250. They of course over the years, have added different variations, but their # seller is the mens L/S<br />
Fr.Cuffed shirt. They do business alongside the finest tailors on Saville Row, who also made shirts, but they made them better. I guess they just focused on making shirts, and making them well. Kathleen, while you are at it, why not throw in a few men&#8217;s styles ? I think a high end shirt purchased for Fathers Day from your company would be well received by any Dad. And I hope you get rich while doing it too.  Do you have any leeway on your labels name ? American Blouse is kinda boring.</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eileen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 21:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathleen, I started my clothing company a year ago (planned it for about a year before that) with my focus to be on better fitting pants for professional women.

Some pitfalls we&#039;ve encountered have been mostly industry related, with very little push back or returns when we sell direct to customers.  Tradeshows, showrooms and industry magazines can all make you lose focus on the original product and target customer.  They are used to dealing with large financially sound companies selling &quot;30 piece collections&quot; rather than being item driven.  We have broadened our offerings beyond just pants for this reason, but my most profitable, highest quality, most distinct and needed item is the pant.

Most people don&#039;t know the expense of adding an additional cut or color to the line which can cost as much as $5K and up if you are producing small lots manufactured in the U.S. This is for patterns, grading, cutting all sizes, fabric minimums, plus unsold inventory AND screw-ups (and you will be amazed at the creative ways in which production can get screwed up).

Our tailored pant is comprised of 49 individual pieces because I didn&#039;t want to just throw spandex at the fit issue.  But with a very detailed tailored garment (and Kathleen I&#039;m sure you can understand this) it took 12 tries to get the fit right and 3 production runs to work out all the kinks and production mishaps (although I&#039;m sure there are unlimited ways to still mess up one of the 49 pieces along the way).

Would we like to do a full line and design more options?  You bet.  But financially, the best option for a start up is to focus on a few key items to build a quality reputation then expand (like Ralph Lauren who only started with a tie, or Kenneth Cole and shoes - expansion takes time).  Or become a couture shop and work on a variety of custom made pieces at a custom made price.

I greatly value and seek out customer and industry feedback, but I can&#039;t let it drive my financial timeline or we wouldn&#039;t be around next season.  You can see the survey we used to get customer feedback at www.eileenkelley.com/survey.html
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathleen, I started my clothing company a year ago (planned it for about a year before that) with my focus to be on better fitting pants for professional women.</p>
<p>Some pitfalls we&#8217;ve encountered have been mostly industry related, with very little push back or returns when we sell direct to customers.  Tradeshows, showrooms and industry magazines can all make you lose focus on the original product and target customer.  They are used to dealing with large financially sound companies selling &#8220;30 piece collections&#8221; rather than being item driven.  We have broadened our offerings beyond just pants for this reason, but my most profitable, highest quality, most distinct and needed item is the pant.</p>
<p>Most people don&#8217;t know the expense of adding an additional cut or color to the line which can cost as much as $5K and up if you are producing small lots manufactured in the U.S. This is for patterns, grading, cutting all sizes, fabric minimums, plus unsold inventory AND screw-ups (and you will be amazed at the creative ways in which production can get screwed up).</p>
<p>Our tailored pant is comprised of 49 individual pieces because I didn&#8217;t want to just throw spandex at the fit issue.  But with a very detailed tailored garment (and Kathleen I&#8217;m sure you can understand this) it took 12 tries to get the fit right and 3 production runs to work out all the kinks and production mishaps (although I&#8217;m sure there are unlimited ways to still mess up one of the 49 pieces along the way).</p>
<p>Would we like to do a full line and design more options?  You bet.  But financially, the best option for a start up is to focus on a few key items to build a quality reputation then expand (like Ralph Lauren who only started with a tie, or Kenneth Cole and shoes &#8211; expansion takes time).  Or become a couture shop and work on a variety of custom made pieces at a custom made price.</p>
<p>I greatly value and seek out customer and industry feedback, but I can&#8217;t let it drive my financial timeline or we wouldn&#8217;t be around next season.  You can see the survey we used to get customer feedback at <a href="http://www.eileenkelley.com/survey.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.eileenkelley.com/survey.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: jeanette</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeanette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 20:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a 5&#039;5&quot; professional woman (read consumer) I think $250 for an elegant cream or white (everyone needs one or two of those) blouse that I would wear for 5 or more years is a good deal, I also like the bra sizing as I am very slim with no bustline persay and longer arms than average.  this is something that would sell, I am speaking ONLY as someone who is a shopper at heart. :-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a 5&#8242;5&#8243; professional woman (read consumer) I think $250 for an elegant cream or white (everyone needs one or two of those) blouse that I would wear for 5 or more years is a good deal, I also like the bra sizing as I am very slim with no bustline persay and longer arms than average.  this is something that would sell, I am speaking ONLY as someone who is a shopper at heart. <img src='http://www.fashion-incubator.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: SB</title>
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		<dc:creator>SB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2005 02:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carol,

I&#039;m with you. When we finally got to choose the type of dye to use, we settled on fiber reactive for our organic cotton. It&#039;s easy to get sucked in by &quot;natural&quot; without stopping to think it through fully. The other thing to consider is that fiber reactive dyes will hold their color longer and not bleed on your customers :-)

V
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carol,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with you. When we finally got to choose the type of dye to use, we settled on fiber reactive for our organic cotton. It&#8217;s easy to get sucked in by &#8220;natural&#8221; without stopping to think it through fully. The other thing to consider is that fiber reactive dyes will hold their color longer and not bleed on your customers <img src='http://www.fashion-incubator.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>V</p>
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		<title>By: christy fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>christy fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2005 01:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is wonderful if that is where you are comfortable. You arecorrect in the fact that I &quot;didn&#039;t get it&quot;.
I think where I went &quot;wrong&quot; was watching everyone add, subtract and multiply your concept and thinking this was like an &quot;exercise in concept&quot;(and asking for opinions)..rather than accept that this is your personal prefernce. I did not mean to offend by any means.
..and MW: I would be totally bored working with a company like C and C.. or even True Religion..or many of the other &quot;brands&quot; that are out there working Tshirt knits and denim. I think Kathleen&#039;s idea is far more interesting than any of those companies.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is wonderful if that is where you are comfortable. You arecorrect in the fact that I &#8220;didn&#8217;t get it&#8221;.<br />
I think where I went &#8220;wrong&#8221; was watching everyone add, subtract and multiply your concept and thinking this was like an &#8220;exercise in concept&#8221;(and asking for opinions)..rather than accept that this is your personal prefernce. I did not mean to offend by any means.<br />
..and MW: I would be totally bored working with a company like C and C.. or even True Religion..or many of the other &#8220;brands&#8221; that are out there working Tshirt knits and denim. I think Kathleen&#8217;s idea is far more interesting than any of those companies.</p>
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