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		<title>By: Paul D</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/industrial_coverstitch_machines/comment-page-1/#comment-37866</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 20:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya, that is what i got...nothing much.  I have other questions.  I am seeing top coverstich and top and bottm cover stitch...what is the difference?  

Also Semi-dry...I have seen comments on silicone fed lub...is this something a lot of industrial machines need?  How does this work?  

And, I saw a notation regarding a Jamone where you had to tie the ends. I know that if you end on a previous stitched area all you do is lift the foot and take a nail file or flat wide bottom tweesers and pull the uncut threads backward a few inches and then cut.  Then pull the material out and it pulls the top threads under.  That is suppose to secure it but I still tied them off.  But when you end a seam off the material you kind of have to tie it off with my experience so it does not unravel.  
Thus the comment from Mike C about not wanting to take all day to do that leads me to questions.  It was my understanding that all coverstitch machines are chain stitch and thus need tying off.  Is this not true? Are there &quot;indurstial&quot; coverstitch machines that are not chain and do not need tying off?

I just need a coverstitch that will sew over elastic and folded serged seam without skipping and a flat bed.  Some versions like Baby Lock have the wall to close the the needles and material is difficult to get thru the narrow opening between them.  The Baby Lock serger/coverstitch combo works on folded serged seam but I have not tested it on elastic.  I also found that the foot was difficult to work with; the lines on foot did not line up well enough to keep the top stitch close to the edge of the fold or hem and it was difficult to keep it lined up and even with the clear foot it was difficult to see where the stitching was and match the finish stitch over the begining stitch.  On the Bernina the feet have the seperat spring loaded sections rather than the complete flat foot and it tended to hang up when sewing over a cross stitched section.  I also found on the Husqvarna I was continually redoing the stitching.  

I have already lost 450.00 from Howards Sewing Center in Colorado Springs, CO.  As noted in previous note from me the Janome crx100 would not work over medium to thick sections of material.  Janome is sold by &quot;franchise&quot; dealers and they make up their own rules and the manufacture will not help you in any capasity with issues you have.  I returned the machine and the dealer then told me they had a no return policy.  It was not discussd on the phone when I a payment down on it, or on the receipt.  I was told it was some were on one of the 30 plaques she had on her wall.  In the end she gave me back less than half of what I paid after spending 2.5 hours showing her over and over that it would not work no matter what I did.  So at this point I am very frustraited and behind on money.  Customers have now been waiting 5 months for me do get orders done because of the two machines I purchased that did not work.  Bernina and Janome dealers have said the reason I am having issues is because I use rubberized spandex and it leaves residu on the needles and i will have to clean it with alcahol.  I do not think that is an issue because many garments now are made of this and they still would not sew on regular spandex in the same areas.  Then they said the needle has birs on them.  They were brand new needles and I changed them a lot and it made no difference.  On the Janome they told me I could not stop the machine unless the needle was in the material and that was why it was missing stitches, then they said I was not letting the machine pull the material and I was pulling on it to much. I made sure I was not doing any of this and it Still did not work.  I was able to test the Bernina and stretch it like when adding elastic without an elastic feeder.  That was also another issue, finding elastic feeders that will feed and fold the hem under at the same time; they just did not leave any room.  

So I am wondering if the top/bottom cover stitch sews the the zigzag on the top and the needle stitch on the bottom as well as top or what????  I do not have a lot to spend as this is my only job since injuring my back and now already loosing money to Janome, and having spent money on material that was expected to be used and is still sitting there cut up and serged but can not be finished without the coverstitch due to the structure of my designs.  That is why I was looking toward the Gemsy 500b; it is only around 1000.00.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya, that is what i got&#8230;nothing much.  I have other questions.  I am seeing top coverstich and top and bottm cover stitch&#8230;what is the difference?  </p>
<p>Also Semi-dry&#8230;I have seen comments on silicone fed lub&#8230;is this something a lot of industrial machines need?  How does this work?  </p>
<p>And, I saw a notation regarding a Jamone where you had to tie the ends. I know that if you end on a previous stitched area all you do is lift the foot and take a nail file or flat wide bottom tweesers and pull the uncut threads backward a few inches and then cut.  Then pull the material out and it pulls the top threads under.  That is suppose to secure it but I still tied them off.  But when you end a seam off the material you kind of have to tie it off with my experience so it does not unravel.<br />
Thus the comment from Mike C about not wanting to take all day to do that leads me to questions.  It was my understanding that all coverstitch machines are chain stitch and thus need tying off.  Is this not true? Are there &#8220;indurstial&#8221; coverstitch machines that are not chain and do not need tying off?</p>
<p>I just need a coverstitch that will sew over elastic and folded serged seam without skipping and a flat bed.  Some versions like Baby Lock have the wall to close the the needles and material is difficult to get thru the narrow opening between them.  The Baby Lock serger/coverstitch combo works on folded serged seam but I have not tested it on elastic.  I also found that the foot was difficult to work with; the lines on foot did not line up well enough to keep the top stitch close to the edge of the fold or hem and it was difficult to keep it lined up and even with the clear foot it was difficult to see where the stitching was and match the finish stitch over the begining stitch.  On the Bernina the feet have the seperat spring loaded sections rather than the complete flat foot and it tended to hang up when sewing over a cross stitched section.  I also found on the Husqvarna I was continually redoing the stitching.  </p>
<p>I have already lost 450.00 from Howards Sewing Center in Colorado Springs, CO.  As noted in previous note from me the Janome crx100 would not work over medium to thick sections of material.  Janome is sold by &#8220;franchise&#8221; dealers and they make up their own rules and the manufacture will not help you in any capasity with issues you have.  I returned the machine and the dealer then told me they had a no return policy.  It was not discussd on the phone when I a payment down on it, or on the receipt.  I was told it was some were on one of the 30 plaques she had on her wall.  In the end she gave me back less than half of what I paid after spending 2.5 hours showing her over and over that it would not work no matter what I did.  So at this point I am very frustraited and behind on money.  Customers have now been waiting 5 months for me do get orders done because of the two machines I purchased that did not work.  Bernina and Janome dealers have said the reason I am having issues is because I use rubberized spandex and it leaves residu on the needles and i will have to clean it with alcahol.  I do not think that is an issue because many garments now are made of this and they still would not sew on regular spandex in the same areas.  Then they said the needle has birs on them.  They were brand new needles and I changed them a lot and it made no difference.  On the Janome they told me I could not stop the machine unless the needle was in the material and that was why it was missing stitches, then they said I was not letting the machine pull the material and I was pulling on it to much. I made sure I was not doing any of this and it Still did not work.  I was able to test the Bernina and stretch it like when adding elastic without an elastic feeder.  That was also another issue, finding elastic feeders that will feed and fold the hem under at the same time; they just did not leave any room.  </p>
<p>So I am wondering if the top/bottom cover stitch sews the the zigzag on the top and the needle stitch on the bottom as well as top or what????  I do not have a lot to spend as this is my only job since injuring my back and now already loosing money to Janome, and having spent money on material that was expected to be used and is still sitting there cut up and serged but can not be finished without the coverstitch due to the structure of my designs.  That is why I was looking toward the Gemsy 500b; it is only around 1000.00.</p>
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		<title>By: Alison Cummins</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/industrial_coverstitch_machines/comment-page-1/#comment-37863</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison Cummins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 19:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I googled &quot;gemsy 500b review&quot; I did get a hit, but it wasn&#039;t specifically the 500B and it was a home sewing site.

http://sewing.patternreview.com/cgi-bin/sewingclasses/board.pl?t=4099</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I googled &#8220;gemsy 500b review&#8221; I did get a hit, but it wasn&#8217;t specifically the 500B and it was a home sewing site.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul D</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/industrial_coverstitch_machines/comment-page-1/#comment-37859</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2011 18:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know about the Gamsy 500B coverstitch machine.  Finding reviews on anything on the net seems impossible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know about the Gamsy 500B coverstitch machine.  Finding reviews on anything on the net seems impossible.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul D</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/industrial_coverstitch_machines/comment-page-1/#comment-37783</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2011 06:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am also looking for an industrial at this point.  I design my own spandex gear for men.  I had the Janomie CPX1000 and it continually skipped when sewing over a folded stetch and over elastic.  So I purchased a Husqvarna s21 and just took it back for the same reason.  It seems the non industrial are overly touchy and get out of timming way to easily.  I use a lot of rubberized spandex as well and wonder if when i get a good machine it will help to use titanium needle or longer needle.  i am also told by theses other machine dealers I have mentioned that it does not make a differene in what thread you use.  I am not sure.  I have just started putting my 15 year old designs into garments (I am generally 10-12 years ahead of everyone else in ideas so I get grief in everything including hairstyles..lol).  So sweing a lot on spandex is new for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am also looking for an industrial at this point.  I design my own spandex gear for men.  I had the Janomie CPX1000 and it continually skipped when sewing over a folded stetch and over elastic.  So I purchased a Husqvarna s21 and just took it back for the same reason.  It seems the non industrial are overly touchy and get out of timming way to easily.  I use a lot of rubberized spandex as well and wonder if when i get a good machine it will help to use titanium needle or longer needle.  i am also told by theses other machine dealers I have mentioned that it does not make a differene in what thread you use.  I am not sure.  I have just started putting my 15 year old designs into garments (I am generally 10-12 years ahead of everyone else in ideas so I get grief in everything including hairstyles..lol).  So sweing a lot on spandex is new for me.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/industrial_coverstitch_machines/comment-page-1/#comment-37711</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 23:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we have a Kansai industrial coverstitch and a Janome domestic coverstitch. We bought the domestic to travel out of town, while the Kansai stays at home in the shop. 
The Kansai is a work horse, but can be a little fussy. The Janome, is your looking for a domestic, is a GEM! It does not have the speed of an industrial, but it never skips stitches, even when going from one level of thickness to a different level of thickness.
That&#039;s what I know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we have a Kansai industrial coverstitch and a Janome domestic coverstitch. We bought the domestic to travel out of town, while the Kansai stays at home in the shop.<br />
The Kansai is a work horse, but can be a little fussy. The Janome, is your looking for a domestic, is a GEM! It does not have the speed of an industrial, but it never skips stitches, even when going from one level of thickness to a different level of thickness.<br />
That&#8217;s what I know.</p>
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		<title>By: LisaB</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/industrial_coverstitch_machines/comment-page-1/#comment-16211</link>
		<dc:creator>LisaB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 20:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lyn, I&#039;m not familiar with the particular Kansai Special machine you&#039;ve noted. You can see from the many comments written that there are differing opinions on this brand. Some say to steer clear of it, while others have been happy. When I needed to make the choice myself, I decided not to take chances and chose a Pegasus. I&#039;m sorry that I&#039;m not able to help further!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lyn, I&#8217;m not familiar with the particular Kansai Special machine you&#8217;ve noted. You can see from the many comments written that there are differing opinions on this brand. Some say to steer clear of it, while others have been happy. When I needed to make the choice myself, I decided not to take chances and chose a Pegasus. I&#8217;m sorry that I&#8217;m not able to help further!</p>
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		<title>By: Lyn Tait</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/industrial_coverstitch_machines/comment-page-1/#comment-16203</link>
		<dc:creator>Lyn Tait</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 05:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I&#039;m trying to buy my daughter a coverstitch industrial machine &amp; have seen a Kansai Special DVK 1702B 3 needle  5.6 gauge coverstitch for sale for $ 1350  ( Australian $ plus GST) Do you know this machine &amp; can you give it a recommendation?  Thanks for any help. ( my daughter is planning to sew stretch fabrics for market stall.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I&#8217;m trying to buy my daughter a coverstitch industrial machine &amp; have seen a Kansai Special DVK 1702B 3 needle  5.6 gauge coverstitch for sale for $ 1350  ( Australian $ plus GST) Do you know this machine &amp; can you give it a recommendation?  Thanks for any help. ( my daughter is planning to sew stretch fabrics for market stall.)</p>
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		<title>By: Kaz</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/industrial_coverstitch_machines/comment-page-1/#comment-13463</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 01:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi I am also looking at buying a coverstitch machine. I have previously owned a Brother and found it a real pain to get the actual garment out from under the foot once it had finished stitching. Quite often pulling the threads tight and even breaking them. I will b e going for an industrial. If thats any help. What are some good idiot proof industrial brand machines. I have 30 years industrial experience but really did struggle with the Brother. Thanks Kazza</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi I am also looking at buying a coverstitch machine. I have previously owned a Brother and found it a real pain to get the actual garment out from under the foot once it had finished stitching. Quite often pulling the threads tight and even breaking them. I will b e going for an industrial. If thats any help. What are some good idiot proof industrial brand machines. I have 30 years industrial experience but really did struggle with the Brother. Thanks Kazza</p>
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		<title>By: lisa choules</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/industrial_coverstitch_machines/comment-page-1/#comment-4134</link>
		<dc:creator>lisa choules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know the difference between industrial and domestic cover stitch machines. I own both, a domestic Baby lock which is also a thorn in my side, and the industrial Brother- model# FD4-B277. The Baby Lock is great if you use one layer of lycra folded over but if you add elastic it doesn&#039;t like all the layers. I figured out how to use my binder attachment thanks to Debbie&#039;s Cover stitch FAQ&#039;s online with fabric but not with elastic and fabric to make straps. I put new needles in the Brother- worked great for a day and now is acting up again. I feel I need to look more into the Juki industrial cover stitch machine. Can anyone help?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know the difference between industrial and domestic cover stitch machines. I own both, a domestic Baby lock which is also a thorn in my side, and the industrial Brother- model# FD4-B277. The Baby Lock is great if you use one layer of lycra folded over but if you add elastic it doesn&#8217;t like all the layers. I figured out how to use my binder attachment thanks to Debbie&#8217;s Cover stitch FAQ&#8217;s online with fabric but not with elastic and fabric to make straps. I put new needles in the Brother- worked great for a day and now is acting up again. I feel I need to look more into the Juki industrial cover stitch machine. Can anyone help?</p>
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		<title>By: Sheron Dresser</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/industrial_coverstitch_machines/comment-page-1/#comment-4133</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheron Dresser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 19:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What threads do you use in your blind stitch machine?  Brand, weight, etc.
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