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		<title>By: Rebecca Fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 16:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can post some pictures in the forum, if that would be fun. I messed around with the idea some more yesterday and I think I&#039;m getting better results this time, now I just need to find a butt to stick in them.  I was really referring to what you had written in this blog post:

&quot;Tangentially, I’d mentioned a delightfully intriguing draft from a vintage German pattern drafting book I have. A scan of the crotch curves is here (in the forum). I plan to test it very soon. I think it will be very flattering, particularly for the bottom-endowed. I’ve never seen this in any other drafting book.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can post some pictures in the forum, if that would be fun. I messed around with the idea some more yesterday and I think I&#8217;m getting better results this time, now I just need to find a butt to stick in them.  I was really referring to what you had written in this blog post:</p>
<p>&#8220;Tangentially, I’d mentioned a delightfully intriguing draft from a vintage German pattern drafting book I have. A scan of the crotch curves is here (in the forum). I plan to test it very soon. I think it will be very flattering, particularly for the bottom-endowed. I’ve never seen this in any other drafting book.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 23:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t speak to your example because I don&#039;t have a frame of reference but as to &quot;testing&quot; this, it&#039;s the only way I&#039;ve ever done it, the way I was trained etc along with all the other old school pattern makers trained in the dark ages. Pants didn&#039;t used to fit as they do now so I am not the only person who could routinely make it work. I &lt;i&gt;know&lt;/i&gt; you&#039;re not suggesting otherwise but it would be great if you could leave a link to an illustration to describe your difficulties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t speak to your example because I don&#8217;t have a frame of reference but as to &#8220;testing&#8221; this, it&#8217;s the only way I&#8217;ve ever done it, the way I was trained etc along with all the other old school pattern makers trained in the dark ages. Pants didn&#8217;t used to fit as they do now so I am not the only person who could routinely make it work. I <i>know</i> you&#8217;re not suggesting otherwise but it would be great if you could leave a link to an illustration to describe your difficulties.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca Fisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2011 18:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been playing with these curves, and I think I&#039;m putting them to high up the cb and cf seams? They seem too tight at points i and i&#039;, and then kind of pooch out. I wonder if Kathleen ever did test this, and what the results were?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been playing with these curves, and I think I&#8217;m putting them to high up the cb and cf seams? They seem too tight at points i and i&#8217;, and then kind of pooch out. I wonder if Kathleen ever did test this, and what the results were?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeans fit lousy these days</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeans fit lousy these days</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 12:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Liz. The best way to contact me is via &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fashion-incubator.com/about/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the about page&lt;/a&gt;. My email is listed there. 

Non-DEs join the forum all the time. They are a valuable resource in pointing out inconsistencies and errors in our thinking. They gain too; they use the forum to get straight answers on their sewing, fitting and pattern questions sans rumor mill and hyperbole that are typical elsewhere. I don&#039;t know of a fair way to include enthusiasts other than requiring the bok. If there were no criteria for them, we&#039;d be inundated and the board would lose its focus. I mean, how could I pick and choose people who&#039;d be good candidates? That&#039;s not a rhetorical question. 

And yes, there&#039;s a book in the works on construction that would benefit many, not just pros. We discuss it on the forum frequently. It&#039;s a difficult job, the initial difficulty is defining its purpose and scope. Obviously it can&#039;t be written by committee but even there, it&#039;s surprising how everyone wants something different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Liz. The best way to contact me is via <a href="http://www.fashion-incubator.com/about/" rel="nofollow">the about page</a>. My email is listed there. </p>
<p>Non-DEs join the forum all the time. They are a valuable resource in pointing out inconsistencies and errors in our thinking. They gain too; they use the forum to get straight answers on their sewing, fitting and pattern questions sans rumor mill and hyperbole that are typical elsewhere. I don&#8217;t know of a fair way to include enthusiasts other than requiring the bok. If there were no criteria for them, we&#8217;d be inundated and the board would lose its focus. I mean, how could I pick and choose people who&#8217;d be good candidates? That&#8217;s not a rhetorical question. </p>
<p>And yes, there&#8217;s a book in the works on construction that would benefit many, not just pros. We discuss it on the forum frequently. It&#8217;s a difficult job, the initial difficulty is defining its purpose and scope. Obviously it can&#8217;t be written by committee but even there, it&#8217;s surprising how everyone wants something different.</p>
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		<title>By: Alison Cummins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alison Cummins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LizPf,

I&#039;m a home sewer and I bought The Book so I could join the forum. No, it is not a reference I turn to at home, but it&#039;s absolutely fundamental to intelligent participation in the forum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LizPf,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a home sewer and I bought The Book so I could join the forum. No, it is not a reference I turn to at home, but it&#8217;s absolutely fundamental to intelligent participation in the forum.</p>
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		<title>By: LizPf</title>
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		<dc:creator>LizPf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathleen, have you made any progress on the book /anne mentions just above?

I would love to support you, but I&#039;m not sure your DE book will have enough utility for me (home sewer) to justify the price. I&#039;m sure it&#039;s worth every penny to a DE, but if 3/4 of the contents aren&#039;t useful to me ...

Or, is there any other way for a non-DE to join the forum?

[For that matter, is there a better way to contact you, other than blog comments?]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathleen, have you made any progress on the book /anne mentions just above?</p>
<p>I would love to support you, but I&#8217;m not sure your DE book will have enough utility for me (home sewer) to justify the price. I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s worth every penny to a DE, but if 3/4 of the contents aren&#8217;t useful to me &#8230;</p>
<p>Or, is there any other way for a non-DE to join the forum?</p>
<p>[For that matter, is there a better way to contact you, other than blog comments?]</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/jeans_fit_lousy_these_days_2/comment-page-1/#comment-10193</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 16:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading the last blog entry on jeans, I tracked down a pair of Rockies (at Drysdales). They arrived yesterday and they are terrific! After years of avoiding jeans, I started wearing Avenue brand, which I basically like. They have a very baggy, comfortable fit, are heavy weight and wear forever.

These Rockies (Dallas style in relaxed fit) fit much better. They have room for the butt, fit fairly snugly in the crotch, but don&#039;t pull because of the room in the seat. Plus, the sizing seems accurate; I&#039;m used to having to buy up a size.

Thanks for the recommendation!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading the last blog entry on jeans, I tracked down a pair of Rockies (at Drysdales). They arrived yesterday and they are terrific! After years of avoiding jeans, I started wearing Avenue brand, which I basically like. They have a very baggy, comfortable fit, are heavy weight and wear forever.</p>
<p>These Rockies (Dallas style in relaxed fit) fit much better. They have room for the butt, fit fairly snugly in the crotch, but don&#8217;t pull because of the room in the seat. Plus, the sizing seems accurate; I&#8217;m used to having to buy up a size.</p>
<p>Thanks for the recommendation!</p>
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		<title>By: /anne...</title>
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		<dc:creator>/anne...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 02:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alison, last year Kathleen told me that for my needs, I wouldn&#039;t find the book useful (although I&#039;m happy to find out that I would). Kathleen also said some time ago that she was planning something appropriate for amateur dressmakers available by subscription, so I&#039;ve been waiting for that.

Oh, and I lost my job last week. The upside for everyone else is that all those vintage pattern drafting books on ebay have one less bidder ;-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alison, last year Kathleen told me that for my needs, I wouldn&#8217;t find the book useful (although I&#8217;m happy to find out that I would). Kathleen also said some time ago that she was planning something appropriate for amateur dressmakers available by subscription, so I&#8217;ve been waiting for that.</p>
<p>Oh, and I lost my job last week. The upside for everyone else is that all those vintage pattern drafting books on ebay have one less bidder <img src='http://www.fashion-incubator.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 23:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;at least I don&#039;t know how to gain access.&lt;/i&gt;

I save all registration response emails Sarah. I don&#039;t find a registration from you. Actually, I save a lot of your emails, you&#039;re always interesting and come up with good stuff. Honestly, I was feeling a bit moxied that you bought the book (Jul 31, 2007) but never signed up for the forum. I&#039;m happy to help you rectify that, go &lt;a href=&quot;http://fashion-incubator.com/phpbb&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; to register. Once I get it, I process it and send you an approval notice. Be sure to check your spam folders. Be advised we have a username policy. While private, the forum isn&#039;t anonymous. It must be your label name or a variation of your real name.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>at least I don&#8217;t know how to gain access.</i></p>
<p>I save all registration response emails Sarah. I don&#8217;t find a registration from you. Actually, I save a lot of your emails, you&#8217;re always interesting and come up with good stuff. Honestly, I was feeling a bit moxied that you bought the book (Jul 31, 2007) but never signed up for the forum. I&#8217;m happy to help you rectify that, go <a href="http://fashion-incubator.com/phpbb" rel="nofollow">here</a> to register. Once I get it, I process it and send you an approval notice. Be sure to check your spam folders. Be advised we have a username policy. While private, the forum isn&#8217;t anonymous. It must be your label name or a variation of your real name.</p>
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