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	<title>Comments on: News From You 5/23/2008</title>
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		<title>By: sfriedberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>sfriedberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 01:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a male engineer, and I really wish I knew an effective way to get more women into engineering.  It could literally double the pool of potential job candidates, and we have a lot of trouble finding qualified engineers.

My experience follows Anita&#039;s comments above. When I was on the faculty at the University of Wisconsin at Madison, teaching computer science, my introductory undergraduate classes were pretty close to a 50/50 split between male and female students.  Advanced undergraduate and masters level courses were down to about 85/15, and I think there were just one or two female doctoral candidates in the whole (large) department.  IIRC, there were three women on the faculty.  This was 1988-1992.  What&#039;s really sad is that these proportions have not changed much over decades!  I just checked and there are five women among the 38 faculty listed.

In the corporate division I work for now, there are three women in the engineering force, four if you count the technical publications writer, out of about 100 people.  My employer is definitely sensitive to equal opportunity hiring issues.  But I don&#039;t know what we are doing to encourage more women to enter the pool of applicants.

There is more to this than simple mathophobia.  Some highly technical fields in the biosciences are strongly dominated by women, although not as strongly as &quot;traditional&quot; engineering fields by men.  I &lt;b&gt;hate&lt;/b&gt; the idea that this is simple &quot;hard&quot; versus &quot;soft&quot; stereotypes at work.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a male engineer, and I really wish I knew an effective way to get more women into engineering.  It could literally double the pool of potential job candidates, and we have a lot of trouble finding qualified engineers.</p>
<p>My experience follows Anita&#8217;s comments above. When I was on the faculty at the University of Wisconsin at Madison, teaching computer science, my introductory undergraduate classes were pretty close to a 50/50 split between male and female students.  Advanced undergraduate and masters level courses were down to about 85/15, and I think there were just one or two female doctoral candidates in the whole (large) department.  IIRC, there were three women on the faculty.  This was 1988-1992.  What&#8217;s really sad is that these proportions have not changed much over decades!  I just checked and there are five women among the 38 faculty listed.</p>
<p>In the corporate division I work for now, there are three women in the engineering force, four if you count the technical publications writer, out of about 100 people.  My employer is definitely sensitive to equal opportunity hiring issues.  But I don&#8217;t know what we are doing to encourage more women to enter the pool of applicants.</p>
<p>There is more to this than simple mathophobia.  Some highly technical fields in the biosciences are strongly dominated by women, although not as strongly as &#8220;traditional&#8221; engineering fields by men.  I <b>hate</b> the idea that this is simple &#8220;hard&#8221; versus &#8220;soft&#8221; stereotypes at work.</p>
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		<title>By: Anita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 22:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had to comment about the engineer shortage.  One of the biggest problems with the engineering field as a whole is that it&#039;s seen as unfashionable, especially among women.  Mention &quot;engineer&quot; to people and they get an image of a geek or a nerd with dorky clothes, no social skills, and taped-up glasses. The media only reinforces this with its stereotypical portrayal of engineering types. How many tv shows are there featuring lawyers, doctors, fashion designers, etc...?  Most shows featuring science-minded people play on the geek stereotypes.  It&#039;s &quot;cool&quot; to say you can&#039;t do math or hate science and until that changes, students will stay away from that kind of career path.

When I was in engineering school in the late 80&#039;s, women were outnumbered by men by about 8 to 1.  That improved in the 90&#039;s, but has apparently declined in recent years. Women still suffer from the impression that girls can&#039;t do math and gravitate away from math-intensive fields.

I wonder, also, if it&#039;s a symptom of the culture of people wanting to make loads of money for little work.  Like in fashion, so many people only see the glamour and flash, but  ignore that it actually takes work to get to that point.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to comment about the engineer shortage.  One of the biggest problems with the engineering field as a whole is that it&#8217;s seen as unfashionable, especially among women.  Mention &#8220;engineer&#8221; to people and they get an image of a geek or a nerd with dorky clothes, no social skills, and taped-up glasses. The media only reinforces this with its stereotypical portrayal of engineering types. How many tv shows are there featuring lawyers, doctors, fashion designers, etc&#8230;?  Most shows featuring science-minded people play on the geek stereotypes.  It&#8217;s &#8220;cool&#8221; to say you can&#8217;t do math or hate science and until that changes, students will stay away from that kind of career path.</p>
<p>When I was in engineering school in the late 80&#8217;s, women were outnumbered by men by about 8 to 1.  That improved in the 90&#8217;s, but has apparently declined in recent years. Women still suffer from the impression that girls can&#8217;t do math and gravitate away from math-intensive fields.</p>
<p>I wonder, also, if it&#8217;s a symptom of the culture of people wanting to make loads of money for little work.  Like in fashion, so many people only see the glamour and flash, but  ignore that it actually takes work to get to that point.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Willmon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Willmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 17:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Business cards:

Geezer&#039;s eyes appreciate phone numbers
in large print and obvious places.

Amusements are wonderful.  Tickle my
fancy and I&#039;ll remember you forever!

Tom
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Business cards:</p>
<p>Geezer&#8217;s eyes appreciate phone numbers<br />
in large print and obvious places.</p>
<p>Amusements are wonderful.  Tickle my<br />
fancy and I&#8217;ll remember you forever!</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 05:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, the business cards rock.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the business cards rock.</p>
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		<title>By: Marie-Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie-Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 19:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only that, but there are 4 ways to get a bunch of demerits at once (I only lack one), but only 2 to get merits (I miss them both).  Worse, the most positive points are awarded for being religious, which would be 50 demerits in my book..

Oh, and I love the business cards.  How many points off for &#039;flirts at parties and collects their business cards&#039;?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only that, but there are 4 ways to get a bunch of demerits at once (I only lack one), but only 2 to get merits (I miss them both).  Worse, the most positive points are awarded for being religious, which would be 50 demerits in my book..</p>
<p>Oh, and I love the business cards.  How many points off for &#8216;flirts at parties and collects their business cards&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Hudson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 03:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the shout-out to our made-to-measure men&#039;s trousers website! A Fine Tooth actually belongs to my business partner, James Kessler, but we sell the trousers as a team through his site.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the shout-out to our made-to-measure men&#8217;s trousers website! A Fine Tooth actually belongs to my business partner, James Kessler, but we sell the trousers as a team through his site.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Laree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Laree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 01:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only got as far as the wife test before I had to comment; something must be missing, because if you add up all the merits posted it only comes up to 25...even assuming I got no demerits for my perpetual untidyness or lack of nylon stockings...LOL
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only got as far as the wife test before I had to comment; something must be missing, because if you add up all the merits posted it only comes up to 25&#8230;even assuming I got no demerits for my perpetual untidyness or lack of nylon stockings&#8230;LOL</p>
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