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		<title>By: Donna Sebastian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 20:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking at the close-up picture the fabric is a twill weave not crepe. My guess is it is a very fine wool based on what was used then.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at the close-up picture the fabric is a twill weave not crepe. My guess is it is a very fine wool based on what was used then.</p>
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		<title>By: Marji</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 09:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love reading the answers here just as much as the entry. My first reaction was passmenterie and cartridge pleats - but I&#039;d never heard of stroked gathering. And I wasn&#039;t thinking about the finer nuances of the pleating being applied vs sewn into a seam.
By the second technique on the left side, are you referring to the flounce?
I keep thinking I&#039;m missing something really intricate, but maybe it&#039;s the obvious.
Definitely I&#039;m with you on the coffee table book.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love reading the answers here just as much as the entry. My first reaction was passmenterie and cartridge pleats &#8211; but I&#8217;d never heard of stroked gathering. And I wasn&#8217;t thinking about the finer nuances of the pleating being applied vs sewn into a seam.<br />
By the second technique on the left side, are you referring to the flounce?<br />
I keep thinking I&#8217;m missing something really intricate, but maybe it&#8217;s the obvious.<br />
Definitely I&#8217;m with you on the coffee table book.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 00:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the gathering--it appears to be stroked gathering.

One or more rows of running stitch are worked at identical intervals, and drawn up.  A blunt point is used to &quot;stroke&quot; the gathering pleats into alignment.

The seam allowance of the non-gathered piece is folded to the wrong side and pressed, then laid over the stroke-gathered section.  The individual gathering pleats are then whipped very carefully to the folded edge--or really, just *behind* the folded edge, so no stitches show on the outside at all).

If the item has a lining layer, the whipping process is repeated with that layer.

The running stitches that gather the work may or may not be removed; given the &quot;holding&quot; effect on this particular piece, I suspect the stitches below the seamline have not been removed.

Stroked gathering is similar to cartridge pleating (or gauging, as you&#039;ll find it called for the mid-19th century, which is my favorite era), in that the finished results are both low-bulk and very orderly.  Stroked gathering is worked along a cut edge and that edge is eventually included in the seam; gauging is worked through a folded edge of the fabric, and is not included in a stitched seam with the flat portion of the garment.

In this case, the flounce also appears to be cut in one piece with the garment, but extended, then slashed and gathered.  The gathered portion would end with a miniscule seam allowance tapering to nothing on the inside, as you would end a dart.  A bit of bias tape on the inside serves to face and reinforce the slashed/gathered portion, but you don&#039;t end up with seams all the way across the lower hip of the tunic, and don&#039;t disrupt the embellishment.

As to that, I&#039;d call it rouleau--self-filled bias tubes stitched into interesting patterns on the garment.

(By the by--I adore this site!)


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the gathering&#8211;it appears to be stroked gathering.</p>
<p>One or more rows of running stitch are worked at identical intervals, and drawn up.  A blunt point is used to &#8220;stroke&#8221; the gathering pleats into alignment.</p>
<p>The seam allowance of the non-gathered piece is folded to the wrong side and pressed, then laid over the stroke-gathered section.  The individual gathering pleats are then whipped very carefully to the folded edge&#8211;or really, just *behind* the folded edge, so no stitches show on the outside at all).</p>
<p>If the item has a lining layer, the whipping process is repeated with that layer.</p>
<p>The running stitches that gather the work may or may not be removed; given the &#8220;holding&#8221; effect on this particular piece, I suspect the stitches below the seamline have not been removed.</p>
<p>Stroked gathering is similar to cartridge pleating (or gauging, as you&#8217;ll find it called for the mid-19th century, which is my favorite era), in that the finished results are both low-bulk and very orderly.  Stroked gathering is worked along a cut edge and that edge is eventually included in the seam; gauging is worked through a folded edge of the fabric, and is not included in a stitched seam with the flat portion of the garment.</p>
<p>In this case, the flounce also appears to be cut in one piece with the garment, but extended, then slashed and gathered.  The gathered portion would end with a miniscule seam allowance tapering to nothing on the inside, as you would end a dart.  A bit of bias tape on the inside serves to face and reinforce the slashed/gathered portion, but you don&#8217;t end up with seams all the way across the lower hip of the tunic, and don&#8217;t disrupt the embellishment.</p>
<p>As to that, I&#8217;d call it rouleau&#8211;self-filled bias tubes stitched into interesting patterns on the garment.</p>
<p>(By the by&#8211;I adore this site!)</p>
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		<title>By: Manda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 17:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I looooooooooooooooooove this dress!  It reminds me of one that I recently bought at artfulwears.com.  I dunno if they still have it, but it was quite similar!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I looooooooooooooooooove this dress!  It reminds me of one that I recently bought at artfulwears.com.  I dunno if they still have it, but it was quite similar!</p>
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		<title>By: vicki</title>
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		<dc:creator>vicki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 16:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would buy a coffee table book too!  Love those back covers.
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		<title>By: kaaren hoback</title>
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		<dc:creator>kaaren hoback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 04:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love puzzles- especially when you say the question might be a trick.

I also agree as to the Passementerie embroidery work but am not so certain the bias tube is self filled, or filled with a very fine cotton cording plus the lovely beadwork. Is the skirt flounce shirring?  The fabric does appear to be fine wool maybe a serge or challis.

Kaaren
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love puzzles- especially when you say the question might be a trick.</p>
<p>I also agree as to the Passementerie embroidery work but am not so certain the bias tube is self filled, or filled with a very fine cotton cording plus the lovely beadwork. Is the skirt flounce shirring?  The fabric does appear to be fine wool maybe a serge or challis.</p>
<p>Kaaren</p>
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		<title>By: laurie</title>
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		<dc:creator>laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 03:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would call the embroidery &quot;bonaz&quot; sometimes spelled &quot;bonnaz&quot;, it&#039;s done on a special machine. It can be self or a trim cord. They don&#039;t do it much domestically anymore, but do a lot in India and China. The draping part almost looks like smocking to me but it&#039;s hard to tell from the picture.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would call the embroidery &#8220;bonaz&#8221; sometimes spelled &#8220;bonnaz&#8221;, it&#8217;s done on a special machine. It can be self or a trim cord. They don&#8217;t do it much domestically anymore, but do a lot in India and China. The draping part almost looks like smocking to me but it&#8217;s hard to tell from the picture.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Bloodgood in Portland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Bloodgood in Portland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 01:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It says on the back cover that it&#039;s a 1940s dress.  Unfortunately, it doesn&#039;t even say what the fabric is.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It says on the back cover that it&#8217;s a 1940s dress.  Unfortunately, it doesn&#8217;t even say what the fabric is.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 23:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the right is passementerie: applied decoration of braid or tubing. It is also beaded.

On the right is a draped flounce or ruffle, cut in one with the front overlay. Then the piece is slashed, the ruffle is gathered (I wouldn&#039;t call it cartridge pleated because it is sewn into the seam, not to the edge of the pleats as in a cartridge pleated skirt or ruff). It looks to me as if the ruffle is not evenly gathered -- there&#039;s a group of gathers, then a space with a flare, then another group of gathers.

Hard to tell on the fabric. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s wool, could it be a silk crepe or rayon?

My guess on the date is very late 1930s. The shoulders show the beginnings of pads, but the skirt is still narrow. It would be helpful to see the length, but it&#039;s probably an evening gown, so floor length.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the right is passementerie: applied decoration of braid or tubing. It is also beaded.</p>
<p>On the right is a draped flounce or ruffle, cut in one with the front overlay. Then the piece is slashed, the ruffle is gathered (I wouldn&#8217;t call it cartridge pleated because it is sewn into the seam, not to the edge of the pleats as in a cartridge pleated skirt or ruff). It looks to me as if the ruffle is not evenly gathered &#8212; there&#8217;s a group of gathers, then a space with a flare, then another group of gathers.</p>
<p>Hard to tell on the fabric. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s wool, could it be a silk crepe or rayon?</p>
<p>My guess on the date is very late 1930s. The shoulders show the beginnings of pads, but the skirt is still narrow. It would be helpful to see the length, but it&#8217;s probably an evening gown, so floor length.</p>
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		<title>By: Els</title>
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		<dc:creator>Els</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 23:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have that issue of Threads magazine and it does not look like it is a wool crepe.
The embellishments is done by self corded bias tube and beading.
For self corded bias tube cords you need some seam allowance to fill the tubes to get the round shape without a filler. Cut the seam allowance as wide as the stitching wide of the tubes, turning the tubes with a loop turner.
Wool crepe would be a good choice to make such embellishments, but I would hand attach the cords with an invisible stitch.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have that issue of Threads magazine and it does not look like it is a wool crepe.<br />
The embellishments is done by self corded bias tube and beading.<br />
For self corded bias tube cords you need some seam allowance to fill the tubes to get the round shape without a filler. Cut the seam allowance as wide as the stitching wide of the tubes, turning the tubes with a loop turner.<br />
Wool crepe would be a good choice to make such embellishments, but I would hand attach the cords with an invisible stitch.</p>
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