Comments on: Pop quiz #463 http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/pop_quiz_463/ How to start a clothing line or run the one you have, better. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:13:37 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Amrita http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/pop_quiz_463/comment-page-1/#comment-33686 Amrita Fri, 22 Apr 2011 20:11:13 +0000 http://www.fashion-incubator.com/2007/07/pop_quiz_463/#comment-33686 I went to fashion school in London not so long ago and we were taught the traditional way too...we only ever got one or two classes of CAD....so maybe its just the US?? I went to fashion school in London not so long ago and we were taught the traditional way too…we only ever got one or two classes of CAD….so maybe its just the US??

]]> By: Ed Tung http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/pop_quiz_463/comment-page-1/#comment-20498 Ed Tung Thu, 03 Dec 2009 01:32:28 +0000 http://www.fashion-incubator.com/2007/07/pop_quiz_463/#comment-20498 To all patternmakers, especially Kathleen, Good news! Patternmaking the old fashioned way is NOT dead...just "outdated" in the USA..lol I am a fashion/embroidery student.. at the ripe old age of...sigh 28+..(sooo old!) and currently living/working/studying in Paris, here patterns are still done the traditional way and let me say, I PREFER it that way. Better results, better fit, and overall less stress to fine tune! Please know the extinction is mainly a US thing! Old ways here Live and well! ed To all patternmakers, especially Kathleen,
Good news! Patternmaking the old fashioned way is NOT dead…just “outdated” in the USA..lol I am a fashion/embroidery student.. at the ripe old age of…sigh 28+..(sooo old!) and currently living/working/studying in Paris, here patterns are still done the traditional way and let me say, I PREFER it that way. Better results, better fit, and overall less stress to fine tune! Please know the extinction is mainly a US thing! Old ways here Live and well!
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]]> By: Rocio http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/pop_quiz_463/comment-page-1/#comment-7424 Rocio Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:25:45 +0000 http://www.fashion-incubator.com/2007/07/pop_quiz_463/#comment-7424 A client of mine (one of the fastest growing retailers in the US )which is relatively new to imports hired me to get their sampling unit in China to a BASIC LEVEL of sample creation. The first thing I noticed was that every single cowl neck style over the last six months had been cancelled after rejecting at least twice as many samples as with other styles.... Eventually I found out that there is NO CHINESE WORD FOR COWL NECK... so no chinese cowl neck + young inexperienced "patternmaker" + very limited knowledge of English = A flawless formula for abominations :-) A client of mine (one of the fastest growing retailers in the US )which is relatively new to imports hired me to get their sampling unit in China to a BASIC LEVEL of sample creation.

The first thing I noticed was that every single cowl neck style over the last six months had been cancelled after rejecting at least twice as many samples as with other styles….
Eventually I found out that there is NO CHINESE WORD FOR COWL NECK… so no chinese cowl neck + young inexperienced “patternmaker” + very limited knowledge of English = A flawless formula for abominations :-)

]]> By: Debra http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/pop_quiz_463/comment-page-1/#comment-7423 Debra Fri, 06 Jul 2007 15:49:02 +0000 http://www.fashion-incubator.com/2007/07/pop_quiz_463/#comment-7423 When I needed to send a 1st pattern offshore, the proto would come back not looking like the pattern I sent....we then requested a tracing of the pattern used to be sent back with every prototype. Usually it were not the pattern that was sent. A lot of time was wasted going back and forth, but one thing for sure, if I sent a diagram indicating certain specs or construction diagrams, offshore loved that. A lot of it was the language barrier, as the info gets passed down through the ranks, they don't understand it and it always looked as though the patternmakers just winged it and also I got the feeling they were young and inexperienced.....but they love the pictures. and Kathleen- I was told the only good patternmakers are either old or dead.... so since we aren't dead, I guess we are considered old.................sniff...sniff.... and I do believe we will be extinct someday. Also because I don't see anyone teaching on the table anymore...or anyone wanting to learn the "old" traditional way. Very sad. D.C. is great, too bad I can't meet you, I am only 3 hrs away. My idea of a nice vacation, (besides Barnes and Noble) this year is the Lancaster, Pa. Renaissance Faire....the family loves it, and I go crazy over the costumes!!! When I needed to send a 1st pattern offshore, the proto would come back not looking like the pattern I sent….we then requested a tracing of the pattern used to be sent back with every prototype. Usually it were not the pattern that was sent. A lot of time was wasted going back and forth, but one thing for sure, if I sent a diagram indicating certain specs or construction diagrams, offshore loved that. A lot of it was the language barrier, as the info gets passed down through the ranks, they don’t understand it and it always looked as though the patternmakers just winged it and also I got the feeling they were young and inexperienced…..but they love the pictures.
and Kathleen- I was told the only good patternmakers are either old or dead….
so since we aren’t dead, I guess we are considered old……………..sniff…sniff….
and I do believe we will be extinct someday. Also because I don’t see anyone teaching on the table anymore…or anyone wanting to learn the “old” traditional way. Very sad.

D.C. is great, too bad I can’t meet you, I am only 3 hrs away.
My idea of a nice vacation,
(besides Barnes and Noble)
this year is the Lancaster, Pa. Renaissance Faire….the family loves it, and I go crazy over the costumes!!!

]]> By: Lisa Bloodgood http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/pop_quiz_463/comment-page-1/#comment-7422 Lisa Bloodgood Thu, 05 Jul 2007 23:25:48 +0000 http://www.fashion-incubator.com/2007/07/pop_quiz_463/#comment-7422 Wow, what a horrible pattern they did! Gag!!! I recently bought a cowl-neck top pattern (yes, I did but it was on clearance), and I still have to make a sample to see if it really works. Kathleen, if/when I get a bunch of capital for my business, I'd hire you or any other super talented patternmaker because, while I can do patterns, there are things I still can't figure out. So don't go extinct yet, please! Wow, what a horrible pattern they did! Gag!!! I recently bought a cowl-neck top pattern (yes, I did but it was on clearance), and I still have to make a sample to see if it really works.

Kathleen, if/when I get a bunch of capital for my business, I’d hire you or any other super talented patternmaker because, while I can do patterns, there are things I still can’t figure out. So don’t go extinct yet, please!

]]> By: Tom Willmon http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/pop_quiz_463/comment-page-1/#comment-7421 Tom Willmon Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:49:07 +0000 http://www.fashion-incubator.com/2007/07/pop_quiz_463/#comment-7421 If I were to go back to DC area (my home for 50 years), sure I'd catch the Smithsonian. Aerospace (final home of Voyager - 'round-the-world, non-stop, non-refueled flight), and every other notable. Last I knew, Enola Gay (Hiroshima B 29) was still in storage in Suitland. Science and Technology (across Mall) has the most gorgeous steam locomotive. [This note seems to be for Eric . National Gallery of Art - fine collection of Impressionists, Picasso, Dali. Last I was there an orchestra was rehearsing. Lovely. Stay indoors - the climate is _hideous_. I would take my favorite canoe. There is a 2 mile piece of the Potomac that I miss, awfully. And a flatwater piece, like wilderness, where I rounded a bend and there was the Washington Monument in the distance, above the trees. Pity I never went back for a photo. That's about all I miss there. I hope your trip is delicious! My best to you both. Tom in the middle of New Mexico If I were to go back to DC area (my home for 50 years), sure I’d catch the Smithsonian. Aerospace (final home of Voyager – ’round-the-world, non-stop, non-refueled flight), and every other notable. Last I knew, Enola Gay (Hiroshima B 29) was still in storage in Suitland. Science and Technology (across Mall) has the most gorgeous steam locomotive. [This note seems to be for Eric .

National Gallery of Art – fine collection of Impressionists, Picasso, Dali. Last I was there an orchestra was rehearsing. Lovely.

Stay indoors – the climate is _hideous_.

I would take my favorite canoe. There is a 2 mile piece of the Potomac that I miss, awfully. And a flatwater piece, like wilderness, where I rounded a bend and there was the Washington Monument in the distance, above the trees. Pity I never went back for a photo.

That’s about all I miss there.

I hope your trip is delicious!

My best to you both.

Tom
in the middle of New Mexico

]]> By: Gale Joiner http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/pop_quiz_463/comment-page-1/#comment-7420 Gale Joiner Thu, 05 Jul 2007 02:20:49 +0000 http://www.fashion-incubator.com/2007/07/pop_quiz_463/#comment-7420 Your vacation! I am so jealous--reading about sewing techniques and patterns is how I entertain myself. Then I construct them in my head. God bless you. Gale Your vacation! I am so jealous–reading about sewing techniques and patterns is how I entertain myself. Then I construct them in my head. God bless you. Gale

]]> By: Gale Joiner http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/pop_quiz_463/comment-page-1/#comment-7419 Gale Joiner Thu, 05 Jul 2007 02:19:50 +0000 http://www.fashion-incubator.com/2007/07/pop_quiz_463/#comment-7419 Your vacation! I am so jealous--reading about sewing techniques and patterns is how I entertain myself. Then I construct them in my head. God bless you. Gale Your vacation! I am so jealous–reading about sewing techniques and patterns is how I entertain myself. Then I construct them in my head. God bless you. Gale

]]> By: Eric H http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/pop_quiz_463/comment-page-1/#comment-7418 Eric H Thu, 05 Jul 2007 01:19:19 +0000 http://www.fashion-incubator.com/2007/07/pop_quiz_463/#comment-7418 Woohoo! Hey cutie! Sorry, that's as much as I can contribute to this post. Woohoo! Hey cutie!

Sorry, that’s as much as I can contribute to this post.

]]> By: massa http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/pop_quiz_463/comment-page-1/#comment-7417 massa Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:06:13 +0000 http://www.fashion-incubator.com/2007/07/pop_quiz_463/#comment-7417 I wonder who made the 1st pattern. LoL As for the 2nd piece, I thought who the heck copied a pattern from a book at the production level and thought about a quick solution. I don't know the style, and this is only my assumption. However, obviously, the pleats on the 2nd and longer shoulder seams were added only to justify the ones on the 1st pattern after the revision. Without them and the natural shoulder seam length, the pattern would make a few deep drapes naturally. Also, the revised facing is still too big for a deep cowl neck, which would be irritation. If the vendor really wants multiple drapes, it will be another story and extra work for the patternmaker. Good Luck I wonder who made the 1st pattern. LoL As for the 2nd piece, I thought who the heck copied a pattern from a book at the production level and thought about a quick solution.

I don’t know the style, and this is only my assumption. However, obviously, the pleats on the 2nd and longer shoulder seams were added only to justify the ones on the 1st pattern after the revision. Without them and the natural shoulder seam length, the pattern would make a few deep drapes naturally. Also, the revised facing is still too big for a deep cowl neck, which would be irritation. If the vendor really wants multiple drapes, it will be another story and extra work for the patternmaker.

Good Luck

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