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	<title>Comments on: Pop quiz #464 pt.3</title>
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	<description>How to start a clothing line or run the one you have, better.</description>
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		<title>By: Sandra B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandra B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 07:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my early career I worked for one of Australia&#039;s largest childrenswear companies as pattern grader.  I knew virtually nothing, but as I gradually came to learn, my immediate superior knew less, and felt threatened by me.  I was told to grade from the neck point, and I think my lengths had the same error as these examples.  But even better, I had to grade a nest on paper without seam allowances, trace each pattern onto card with a tracing wheel, add seam allowances, and cut them using a stanley knife.    When I had done all 6 sizes, my boss would check them thoroughly.  If there was a 1mm error anywhere, I was hauled over the coals. (while she smiled her sweet smile and made sure I knew that I was really not very clever) (I&#039;m actually at the far end of the IQ bell curve, but my social IQ back then was probably 90 and falling)  I had to mark my grading rule with tippex so she measured using the same end I did as the ruler was slightly warped. It took 8 hours to complete a pattern set, working as fast as I could.   I estimated once how much company money she wasted.  It was about 3 times my annual salary. I was eventually replaced by the CAD system I was the only person trained to use.  20 years later I still start shaking when I think of the experience, and I&#039;m pretty sure the trauma affected my long term career, because I only ever applied for jobs well below my capabilities after that and every promotion came as a surprise.

Strangely, I don&#039;t hate grading itself, although  I still feel I don&#039;t know how to grade properly.  I have the Cooklin book, and now understand the concepts, but can&#039;t follow his method when it comes to grading the bust dart take-up, and most methods just keep the dart take-up the same, which seems less accurate to me.  I guess I&#039;ll just have to splurge on the Handford book, and see how I go.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my early career I worked for one of Australia&#8217;s largest childrenswear companies as pattern grader.  I knew virtually nothing, but as I gradually came to learn, my immediate superior knew less, and felt threatened by me.  I was told to grade from the neck point, and I think my lengths had the same error as these examples.  But even better, I had to grade a nest on paper without seam allowances, trace each pattern onto card with a tracing wheel, add seam allowances, and cut them using a stanley knife.    When I had done all 6 sizes, my boss would check them thoroughly.  If there was a 1mm error anywhere, I was hauled over the coals. (while she smiled her sweet smile and made sure I knew that I was really not very clever) (I&#8217;m actually at the far end of the IQ bell curve, but my social IQ back then was probably 90 and falling)  I had to mark my grading rule with tippex so she measured using the same end I did as the ruler was slightly warped. It took 8 hours to complete a pattern set, working as fast as I could.   I estimated once how much company money she wasted.  It was about 3 times my annual salary. I was eventually replaced by the CAD system I was the only person trained to use.  20 years later I still start shaking when I think of the experience, and I&#8217;m pretty sure the trauma affected my long term career, because I only ever applied for jobs well below my capabilities after that and every promotion came as a surprise.</p>
<p>Strangely, I don&#8217;t hate grading itself, although  I still feel I don&#8217;t know how to grade properly.  I have the Cooklin book, and now understand the concepts, but can&#8217;t follow his method when it comes to grading the bust dart take-up, and most methods just keep the dart take-up the same, which seems less accurate to me.  I guess I&#8217;ll just have to splurge on the Handford book, and see how I go.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Bloodgood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Bloodgood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 00:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I actually put my flexible ruler up to both nests and measured the necklines.  The necklines in 1 were all the same and in 2 they were different, accommodating each size.  I&#039;m not anywhere even close to being an expert at grading, but 1 did look weird having the grade point at CF neck.  Thanks for clearing some of this up.  :-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually put my flexible ruler up to both nests and measured the necklines.  The necklines in 1 were all the same and in 2 they were different, accommodating each size.  I&#8217;m not anywhere even close to being an expert at grading, but 1 did look weird having the grade point at CF neck.  Thanks for clearing some of this up.  :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Amitai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amitai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 22:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Esther,
Kathleen and me had a discussion about this stacking and baseline issue, and I think your comment concludes best what was the source of our &#039;miscommunication&#039;. Working in CAD is &lt;i&gt;based&lt;/i&gt; on manual working, however it also allows &lt;i&gt;different approaches&lt;/i&gt;, which are too complicated to calculate manually, but are done easily (or easier) on computers.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Esther,<br />
Kathleen and me had a discussion about this stacking and baseline issue, and I think your comment concludes best what was the source of our &#8216;miscommunication&#8217;. Working in CAD is <i>based</i> on manual working, however it also allows <i>different approaches</i>, which are too complicated to calculate manually, but are done easily (or easier) on computers.</p>
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		<title>By: Esther</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/pop_quiz_464_pt3/comment-page-1/#comment-7660</link>
		<dc:creator>Esther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 18:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have found that grading manually (pencil and paper) nest #2 is easier. CAD changes the traditional method because you have to select a starting grade point and work counter-clockwise around a piece. So for me, picking a point such as the CF or CB neck makes it easier. CAD programs vary in how grading is set-up and some are easier than others. Still, I move my stack point around depending on the piece and to check grades. I probably rely too heavily on a ruler and measurement charts instead of just looking at a nest and synthesizing what I see.

For what it&#039;s worth, I have been working through the Handford book, following his method and I have been learning a lot about grading. Perhaps there is too heavy a reliance on CAD by new graders. It may be worth the sweat and effort to do it the traditional way so that grading principles are internalized better.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have found that grading manually (pencil and paper) nest #2 is easier. CAD changes the traditional method because you have to select a starting grade point and work counter-clockwise around a piece. So for me, picking a point such as the CF or CB neck makes it easier. CAD programs vary in how grading is set-up and some are easier than others. Still, I move my stack point around depending on the piece and to check grades. I probably rely too heavily on a ruler and measurement charts instead of just looking at a nest and synthesizing what I see.</p>
<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, I have been working through the Handford book, following his method and I have been learning a lot about grading. Perhaps there is too heavy a reliance on CAD by new graders. It may be worth the sweat and effort to do it the traditional way so that grading principles are internalized better.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 17:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve had this and other grading books for almost 20 years and every time I sit and take a look it baffles me. Can&#039;t make head or tail out of it. So, for me at least, patternmaking is easier. Need to have a go at them one more time....maybe just need to have a pattern to grade while reading and following the instructions instead of trying to understand the &#039;dry&#039; theory.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had this and other grading books for almost 20 years and every time I sit and take a look it baffles me. Can&#8217;t make head or tail out of it. So, for me at least, patternmaking is easier. Need to have a go at them one more time&#8230;.maybe just need to have a pattern to grade while reading and following the instructions instead of trying to understand the &#8216;dry&#8217; theory.</p>
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