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		<title>By: Shar</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/prototype-bag-style-4216-pt1/comment-page-1/#comment-18262</link>
		<dc:creator>Shar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 03:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve done applique with leathers before, and whatever they say, most of them can be steamed enough to use lightweight fusible to bond the layers.  Draw it on the paper backing, iron it onto the back of the leather, cut it out and fuse it down with a press cloth.  Try a few tests with scraps of the leather to see if you need more or less steam or none at all.  Then you can just straight stitch near the cut edge.  Or satin stitch it, which is what I usually do.  Do it just a bit less dense than on fabric.  I also use a Bernina 950, and I narrow the width to nothing as I come to a point to make it sharp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve done applique with leathers before, and whatever they say, most of them can be steamed enough to use lightweight fusible to bond the layers.  Draw it on the paper backing, iron it onto the back of the leather, cut it out and fuse it down with a press cloth.  Try a few tests with scraps of the leather to see if you need more or less steam or none at all.  Then you can just straight stitch near the cut edge.  Or satin stitch it, which is what I usually do.  Do it just a bit less dense than on fabric.  I also use a Bernina 950, and I narrow the width to nothing as I come to a point to make it sharp.</p>
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		<title>By: Marie-Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie-Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mmm..  too much for me :-).

OK, it looks great, but I think a single layer would probably look good enough, at least it&#039;d be worth testing.  Maybe use that &#039;piping&#039; turquoise color in topstitching so a single-layer looks more complex?

About marking black:  I use a Japanese wheel with yellow chalk powder (Clover I believe).  As fast as a pen, very fine, totally stands out.  In a pinch, I&#039;ve used a sliver of soap, a bit harder to maneuver and less durable but still perfectly serviceable.  I like your silver pen, but fear it&#039;s permanent which you may not like everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmm..  too much for me <img src='http://www.fashion-incubator.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>OK, it looks great, but I think a single layer would probably look good enough, at least it&#8217;d be worth testing.  Maybe use that &#8216;piping&#8217; turquoise color in topstitching so a single-layer looks more complex?</p>
<p>About marking black:  I use a Japanese wheel with yellow chalk powder (Clover I believe).  As fast as a pen, very fine, totally stands out.  In a pinch, I&#8217;ve used a sliver of soap, a bit harder to maneuver and less durable but still perfectly serviceable.  I like your silver pen, but fear it&#8217;s permanent which you may not like everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 15:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Kathleen, I love the back shot. It reminds me of a Japanese rising sun. Will you be making 4217 in a color-blocked version? Or same color but two finishes, like matte and shiny would be sweet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Kathleen, I love the back shot. It reminds me of a Japanese rising sun. Will you be making 4217 in a color-blocked version? Or same color but two finishes, like matte and shiny would be sweet.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 13:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have $1000 to spend, but I am sure that at a high end boutique there are still women who&#039;d pay that for a unique bag like this.  But, the question is that the wholesale or retail price we&#039;re talking about?  By the way, what is embroidery adhesive?  Could you use the temporary spray that lets go after a few hours or overnight?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have $1000 to spend, but I am sure that at a high end boutique there are still women who&#8217;d pay that for a unique bag like this.  But, the question is that the wholesale or retail price we&#8217;re talking about?  By the way, what is embroidery adhesive?  Could you use the temporary spray that lets go after a few hours or overnight?</p>
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		<title>By: Doris W. in TN</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doris W. in TN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 12:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome bag! Here are some ideas to throw against the wall, and see what sticks:

Embroidery (Sulky, 505) adhesive can gum up a needle over time unless you use a titanium coated needle.   You probably already knew that.  It doesn&#039;t give a strong enough bond to suit  me when I do mach. embr.,  but you probably have access to better industrial type stuff.

If this was my project , I would use something like Steam-a-Seam Lite     http://www.warmcompany.com/lsaspage.html  for all the appliqué layers.  You mark the backing paper with the shape after fusing, peel the paper away after it cools,  and cut the shape out.  It&#039;s very lightweight and flexible, but gets the job done enough to hold it in place for the stitching.    I use it often in garment construction and love it.

Another product to consider (if the concept appeals) is Misty Fuse ( http://www.mistyfuse.com/ ) although it appears to have no backing paper.  Quilters like it for machine appliqué but I have not personally used it.

For marking, have you considered the Sulky Transfer Pen?   ( http://www.sulky.com/transferpens/index_pens.php )    I used it for a quilting project, when I needed to draw a certain shape over and over - which would have driven me mad - and this worked really well for me.

Hope this helps.     Thank you for continuing to share your blog with us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome bag! Here are some ideas to throw against the wall, and see what sticks:</p>
<p>Embroidery (Sulky, 505) adhesive can gum up a needle over time unless you use a titanium coated needle.   You probably already knew that.  It doesn&#8217;t give a strong enough bond to suit  me when I do mach. embr.,  but you probably have access to better industrial type stuff.</p>
<p>If this was my project , I would use something like Steam-a-Seam Lite     <a href="http://www.warmcompany.com/lsaspage.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.warmcompany.com/lsaspage.html</a>  for all the appliqué layers.  You mark the backing paper with the shape after fusing, peel the paper away after it cools,  and cut the shape out.  It&#8217;s very lightweight and flexible, but gets the job done enough to hold it in place for the stitching.    I use it often in garment construction and love it.</p>
<p>Another product to consider (if the concept appeals) is Misty Fuse ( <a href="http://www.mistyfuse.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mistyfuse.com/</a> ) although it appears to have no backing paper.  Quilters like it for machine appliqué but I have not personally used it.</p>
<p>For marking, have you considered the Sulky Transfer Pen?   ( <a href="http://www.sulky.com/transferpens/index_pens.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.sulky.com/transferpens/index_pens.php</a> )    I used it for a quilting project, when I needed to draw a certain shape over and over &#8211; which would have driven me mad &#8211; and this worked really well for me.</p>
<p>Hope this helps.     Thank you for continuing to share your blog with us.</p>
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		<title>By: barbmaslen</title>
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		<dc:creator>barbmaslen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 00:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the bag - it looks great.  And I find a silver gel pen is great for marking on dark coloured fabrics, you can get a fine line and the pens are cheap.  You may have to try a few different brands, some work better than others.  Silver often seems to &#039;stick&#039; better than white, I don&#039;t know why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the bag &#8211; it looks great.  And I find a silver gel pen is great for marking on dark coloured fabrics, you can get a fine line and the pens are cheap.  You may have to try a few different brands, some work better than others.  Silver often seems to &#8217;stick&#8217; better than white, I don&#8217;t know why.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 23:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I finished the back, altho pieced in 7 pieces, it went together well and quickly. It also &lt;a href=&quot;http://designer-entrepreneurs.com/blog/illustrations/4217_back_done.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;looks cool&lt;/a&gt;, better than I thought it would. It&#039;s actually style 4217 that makes up the back of this. It can stand alone of course but having a pattern to break up the expanse of leather into smaller pieces makes for good yield. 

This &lt;a href=&quot;http://designer-entrepreneurs.com/blog/illustrations/4216_4217_contrast.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;other photo&lt;/a&gt; shows the contrasting facing from inside the bag (strap flopped over). The facing is the light green leather. I think it&#039;ll look nice when it&#039;s done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finished the back, altho pieced in 7 pieces, it went together well and quickly. It also <a href="http://designer-entrepreneurs.com/blog/illustrations/4217_back_done.jpg" rel="nofollow">looks cool</a>, better than I thought it would. It&#8217;s actually style 4217 that makes up the back of this. It can stand alone of course but having a pattern to break up the expanse of leather into smaller pieces makes for good yield. </p>
<p>This <a href="http://designer-entrepreneurs.com/blog/illustrations/4216_4217_contrast.jpg" rel="nofollow">other photo</a> shows the contrasting facing from inside the bag (strap flopped over). The facing is the light green leather. I think it&#8217;ll look nice when it&#8217;s done.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 18:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love this! 

As to marking the black, why not just avoid it if it is a problem? Could you CUT the black interfacing with a seam allowance that matches the pressure foot you are using. Adhere it and stitch using the edge of the foot as the guide. That way, you have your marking, but have not lost time on the marking, although you will be cutting twice. Always a trade-off.

I had luck marking fabric cutting lines with- don&#039;t laugh- a white out pen. They now have very good control with the pen points, if you keep the dried material cleaned off and keep them moving. On leather, where there is no danger of bleed through, it might work for a stitching line on the back of an interfaced piece.

Spray the adhesive on using a template to cover the area you do not want sprayed.

Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love this! </p>
<p>As to marking the black, why not just avoid it if it is a problem? Could you CUT the black interfacing with a seam allowance that matches the pressure foot you are using. Adhere it and stitch using the edge of the foot as the guide. That way, you have your marking, but have not lost time on the marking, although you will be cutting twice. Always a trade-off.</p>
<p>I had luck marking fabric cutting lines with- don&#8217;t laugh- a white out pen. They now have very good control with the pen points, if you keep the dried material cleaned off and keep them moving. On leather, where there is no danger of bleed through, it might work for a stitching line on the back of an interfaced piece.</p>
<p>Spray the adhesive on using a template to cover the area you do not want sprayed.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaaren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaaren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this design -but $1,000 for the bag is out of my budget.  I would attempt to make one for myself rather than buy it from you. 

I would also love something not quite so expensive, to own. 

I would use a single or  custom pair of leather stamps ( Harper Manufacturing offers custom steel stamps).  Paint on leather dye in 2 or more colors,  blushed with some of the ‘pearlized’ paints such as Peal Ex pigments from Jacquard Products available in art supply stores.  Using a paint by number cartoon (pattern), almost any unskilled worker could apply.   Result would provide dimension, color and design definition all on the body of the bag.   Less allocation of leather-, a couple of taps and minimal brush strokes to apply the dye. Considering added dry time and even handling again for a blush of pearl powder should shorten the per bag assembly time and real cost.

Kaaren</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this design -but $1,000 for the bag is out of my budget.  I would attempt to make one for myself rather than buy it from you. </p>
<p>I would also love something not quite so expensive, to own. </p>
<p>I would use a single or  custom pair of leather stamps ( Harper Manufacturing offers custom steel stamps).  Paint on leather dye in 2 or more colors,  blushed with some of the ‘pearlized’ paints such as Peal Ex pigments from Jacquard Products available in art supply stores.  Using a paint by number cartoon (pattern), almost any unskilled worker could apply.   Result would provide dimension, color and design definition all on the body of the bag.   Less allocation of leather-, a couple of taps and minimal brush strokes to apply the dye. Considering added dry time and even handling again for a blush of pearl powder should shorten the per bag assembly time and real cost.</p>
<p>Kaaren</p>
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		<title>By: Esther</title>
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		<dc:creator>Esther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 15:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you discovered how easy it is to design expensive product. The challenge is trying to design to meet a price point, as you know. Have you figured out what price point you want to meet? Don&#039;t give up! I think you can get the look with less labor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you discovered how easy it is to design expensive product. The challenge is trying to design to meet a price point, as you know. Have you figured out what price point you want to meet? Don&#8217;t give up! I think you can get the look with less labor.</p>
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