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		<title>By: Donna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 15:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tried this and the first one was way off on the grading. I modified the second attempt and came out with a really well fitting shirt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tried this and the first one was way off on the grading. I modified the second attempt and came out with a really well fitting shirt.</p>
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		<title>By: rito</title>
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		<dc:creator>rito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 21:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>awww...your son is a sweetie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>awww&#8230;your son is a sweetie</p>
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		<title>By: Sabine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sabine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 05:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really honestly had to laugh out loud at this:
&quot;There was no way my son was going to put on a bra and panties -children can be so non compliant. &quot;
Originally I wanted to use my daughter as the underwear model, but I just could not convince her, despite me cutting out the models whole body, so i know exactly what you mean, hehe

Thank you for sharing this, will try this, but also plan on making a body form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really honestly had to laugh out loud at this:<br />
&#8220;There was no way my son was going to put on a bra and panties -children can be so non compliant. &#8221;<br />
Originally I wanted to use my daughter as the underwear model, but I just could not convince her, despite me cutting out the models whole body, so i know exactly what you mean, hehe</p>
<p>Thank you for sharing this, will try this, but also plan on making a body form.</p>
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		<title>By: AJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathleen, did you ever post the pattern pieces that came from this? I am writing an article which compiles all the &quot;make your own sloper&quot; type links on the net that I can find and I would like to include this because it&#039;s so simple and likely a lot more accurate than using thick tape but I think novices may get stuck on the fact that there are no photos of what their final pieces will look like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathleen, did you ever post the pattern pieces that came from this? I am writing an article which compiles all the &#8220;make your own sloper&#8221; type links on the net that I can find and I would like to include this because it&#8217;s so simple and likely a lot more accurate than using thick tape but I think novices may get stuck on the fact that there are no photos of what their final pieces will look like.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 22:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I imagine I’ll be updating this posting regarding the pattern I make from this so I’ll save my other photos for that demonstration. However, you can work ahead if you like.


Have you posted / updated this post? I am considering trying out this method to get an idea of how big my 2D/flat-self really is so that I can make my own clothes. I understand up to the &quot;cutting it only so far as to render it flat&quot; part but where should I be cutting and how far... or is this one of those go with the gut type things? I&#039;m kind of just being to get into the entire world of &quot;make your own clothing&quot; (I&#039;m overweight &amp; commercial patterns are NEVER a quick and simple thing for me... I got Don McCunn&#039;s Pattern drafting book &quot;How To Make Sewing Patterns&quot; it&#039;s a vrery good book. Once I figured out what to do and how to do it I was fine- I just keep forgeting to add seams and hems! But it doesn&#039;t cover some things like grading, and I feel like some things were explained/partially explained but I just didn&#039;t get it!?) 

I was going to take a closer look at the books you recommended in the 1st part of this post and save up money for them  - If I had the $$MONEY$$ I&#039;d definitely donate to this site... you seem to me like one of those folks who knows their business (forward, backward, sideways and up-side-down). You explain yourself/methods/how-to so well that while I do re-read it to myself to get the basics of telling me figured out right in my head, you keep it simple and to the point, it&#039;s easy to understand. (I&#039;m finding it to be a very rare thing to find on the internet!)

So anyway i was just wondering if you had already posted an addition to this post (I have not been able to find it yet?!) or even if you had. I understand that you do have a life outside of this site and you probably get all kinds of requests for more tutorials, but was there anyway you would be able to &quot;clairify&quot; the where to cut and how far dilemma I&#039;m having? 

Again, (completely understandable) if you don&#039;t have the time, then you don&#039;t have it! 

Thank you for &#039;public&#039; access to what I am able to view and post comments to. You really do have a spectacular site here, 
Thank you for your time,
Kristal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I imagine I’ll be updating this posting regarding the pattern I make from this so I’ll save my other photos for that demonstration. However, you can work ahead if you like.</p>
<p>Have you posted / updated this post? I am considering trying out this method to get an idea of how big my 2D/flat-self really is so that I can make my own clothes. I understand up to the &#8220;cutting it only so far as to render it flat&#8221; part but where should I be cutting and how far&#8230; or is this one of those go with the gut type things? I&#8217;m kind of just being to get into the entire world of &#8220;make your own clothing&#8221; (I&#8217;m overweight &amp; commercial patterns are NEVER a quick and simple thing for me&#8230; I got Don McCunn&#8217;s Pattern drafting book &#8220;How To Make Sewing Patterns&#8221; it&#8217;s a vrery good book. Once I figured out what to do and how to do it I was fine- I just keep forgeting to add seams and hems! But it doesn&#8217;t cover some things like grading, and I feel like some things were explained/partially explained but I just didn&#8217;t get it!?) </p>
<p>I was going to take a closer look at the books you recommended in the 1st part of this post and save up money for them  &#8211; If I had the $$MONEY$$ I&#8217;d definitely donate to this site&#8230; you seem to me like one of those folks who knows their business (forward, backward, sideways and up-side-down). You explain yourself/methods/how-to so well that while I do re-read it to myself to get the basics of telling me figured out right in my head, you keep it simple and to the point, it&#8217;s easy to understand. (I&#8217;m finding it to be a very rare thing to find on the internet!)</p>
<p>So anyway i was just wondering if you had already posted an addition to this post (I have not been able to find it yet?!) or even if you had. I understand that you do have a life outside of this site and you probably get all kinds of requests for more tutorials, but was there anyway you would be able to &#8220;clairify&#8221; the where to cut and how far dilemma I&#8217;m having? </p>
<p>Again, (completely understandable) if you don&#8217;t have the time, then you don&#8217;t have it! </p>
<p>Thank you for &#8216;public&#8217; access to what I am able to view and post comments to. You really do have a spectacular site here,<br />
Thank you for your time,<br />
Kristal</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie Hanes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leslie Hanes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 06:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I&#039;m pretty sure you stole the idea from the Egyptians. But, I wonder when they thought they would get around to actually drafting the pattern? Talk about leaving your model in the wrapping too long!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I&#8217;m pretty sure you stole the idea from the Egyptians. But, I wonder when they thought they would get around to actually drafting the pattern? Talk about leaving your model in the wrapping too long!</p>
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		<title>By: Liron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 14:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kathleen
I am so delighted about finding your site ,and this entry is great. As I am now learning pattern making (and we will not be grading in this course-its a separate one) I would like to ask about grading up- Does grading up relace the ease of the block or or should you ease some anyway?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kathleen<br />
I am so delighted about finding your site ,and this entry is great. As I am now learning pattern making (and we will not be grading in this course-its a separate one) I would like to ask about grading up- Does grading up relace the ease of the block or or should you ease some anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: Alison Cummins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alison Cummins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, couldn’t this be a case of convergent evolution?

The idea of wrapping the body in something to make a model of it has been around for a while. Duct Tape Doubles are the current thing, whereas before it was Brown Paper Office Tape Dummies. Perhaps more closely related to the Saran Wrap exercise is draping — sewing muslin to a form or person and then cutting it apart to make a pattern from it. Substitute Saran Wrap for muslin and voila.

Kathleen, I have no idea whether you or Connie came up with the idea first or who published it first. If an idea is a good one, it seems to me that smart people might hit upon it independently. While Connie may certainly have taken her inspiration from you — you’re a *very* smart person — that’s between you and Connie. I don’t think you have to worry about the rest of us imagining you to be intellectually dishonest. Because we know you aren’t.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, couldn’t this be a case of convergent evolution?</p>
<p>The idea of wrapping the body in something to make a model of it has been around for a while. Duct Tape Doubles are the current thing, whereas before it was Brown Paper Office Tape Dummies. Perhaps more closely related to the Saran Wrap exercise is draping — sewing muslin to a form or person and then cutting it apart to make a pattern from it. Substitute Saran Wrap for muslin and voila.</p>
<p>Kathleen, I have no idea whether you or Connie came up with the idea first or who published it first. If an idea is a good one, it seems to me that smart people might hit upon it independently. While Connie may certainly have taken her inspiration from you — you’re a *very* smart person — that’s between you and Connie. I don’t think you have to worry about the rest of us imagining you to be intellectually dishonest. Because we know you aren’t.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you&#039;re not implying that I copied the concept from Connie. If you think she originated it, it&#039;d mean you&#039;d fallen sway to pre-emptive bias, meaning, you assume the originator to be the person you heard it from first. But thanks. I&#039;ll look it up in Connie&#039;s book and mention to her she should have credited me with the idea because I certainly don&#039;t need allegations of intellectual dishonesty from people who hear of it there first.

Secondly, as I say over and over and over and over and over and over (and over and over); this *isn&#039;t* a pattern making method per se. It&#039;s a way for people to see the shapes of their bodies. Besides, you don&#039;t have to pull it on with tension, but pat it on (you know, balling up the saran wrap rather than heating it). Lastly I say repeatedly to grade it up a size or two. I&#039;m guessing you didn&#039;t read entry #1 although I also mention it in this entry.

Btw, the &quot;Robbie&quot; mentioned in this article is Robbie Fanning, I wrote a version of this article for her newsletter (the Creative Machine) back in the mid 90&#039;s, well before Connie was writing pattern making books.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you&#8217;re not implying that I copied the concept from Connie. If you think she originated it, it&#8217;d mean you&#8217;d fallen sway to pre-emptive bias, meaning, you assume the originator to be the person you heard it from first. But thanks. I&#8217;ll look it up in Connie&#8217;s book and mention to her she should have credited me with the idea because I certainly don&#8217;t need allegations of intellectual dishonesty from people who hear of it there first.</p>
<p>Secondly, as I say over and over and over and over and over and over (and over and over); this *isn&#8217;t* a pattern making method per se. It&#8217;s a way for people to see the shapes of their bodies. Besides, you don&#8217;t have to pull it on with tension, but pat it on (you know, balling up the saran wrap rather than heating it). Lastly I say repeatedly to grade it up a size or two. I&#8217;m guessing you didn&#8217;t read entry #1 although I also mention it in this entry.</p>
<p>Btw, the &#8220;Robbie&#8221; mentioned in this article is Robbie Fanning, I wrote a version of this article for her newsletter (the Creative Machine) back in the mid 90&#8217;s, well before Connie was writing pattern making books.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Rekha Sharma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Rekha Sharma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried the method of creating a &#039;replica&#039; of my torso with the cling film (= Glad) and make some observations

1. This method appears in Connie-Crawford&#039;s Patternmaking made easy

2. Cling film stretches unreliably over the body and you end up with a smaller replica. It also means you can&#039;t generate an algorithm to relate stretch to actual measurements.

Think heating food in the microwave covered with cling film . When removed from the oven it shrinks far smaller than its original size. The replica I made turned out to be smaller. For the same reason as #2 you can&#039;t extrapolate measurements.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried the method of creating a &#8216;replica&#8217; of my torso with the cling film (= Glad) and make some observations</p>
<p>1. This method appears in Connie-Crawford&#8217;s Patternmaking made easy</p>
<p>2. Cling film stretches unreliably over the body and you end up with a smaller replica. It also means you can&#8217;t generate an algorithm to relate stretch to actual measurements.</p>
<p>Think heating food in the microwave covered with cling film . When removed from the oven it shrinks far smaller than its original size. The replica I made turned out to be smaller. For the same reason as #2 you can&#8217;t extrapolate measurements.</p>
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