<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: The evils of mass production</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/the_evils_of_mass_production/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/the_evils_of_mass_production/</link>
	<description>How to start a clothing line or run the one you have, better.</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 22:49:13 -0800</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: Sabine</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/the_evils_of_mass_production/comment-page-1/#comment-22664</link>
		<dc:creator>Sabine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 18:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fashion-incubator.com/2008/03/the_evils_of_mass_production/#comment-22664</guid>
		<description>The difference in time comes form how often a piece is picked up and then laid down again, not form how fast the actual work is performed.
As little experience as I have with production, my rule of thumb is - if i can keep going without having to lay the piece down, then keep going, if I have to lay it down anyways, i go for repetition of the process with a new piece.
eg: if i have to go and press a seam before being able to continue sewing, i move on to the next piece and finish the batch before starting a new process-cause it involves walking a few steps. Mind you-the walking would keep me more fit :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference in time comes form how often a piece is picked up and then laid down again, not form how fast the actual work is performed.<br />
As little experience as I have with production, my rule of thumb is &#8211; if i can keep going without having to lay the piece down, then keep going, if I have to lay it down anyways, i go for repetition of the process with a new piece.<br />
eg: if i have to go and press a seam before being able to continue sewing, i move on to the next piece and finish the batch before starting a new process-cause it involves walking a few steps. Mind you-the walking would keep me more fit <img src='http://www.fashion-incubator.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/the_evils_of_mass_production/comment-page-1/#comment-9897</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 02:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fashion-incubator.com/2008/03/the_evils_of_mass_production/#comment-9897</guid>
		<description>A lot of interesting comments.  The one thing nobody has really mentioned is that the idea with Lean is to work &quot;towards&quot; one piece flow with one-piece being the optimum.  There are many reasons a process might not be able to work at one piece flow; distance between processes being a biggie.  The idea with Lean is to remove the &quot;wastes&quot; (distance being one), so that you can get closer to one-piece flow.  In the example where you wouldn&#039;t want to have to walk over to the iron to iron one piece, the answer would be to somehow connect the processes so that distance would not be an issue.  The &quot;Big Picture&quot; of the video was to show how one-piece flow would reduce lead time by removing motion wastes that added to it.  If you have to pick up a piece more than once, you are wasting motion.  In his example, he keeps the part in his hand at all times through the process; thus reducing the motion and transportation waste associated with batch.  Remember though, you cannot always go directly to one-piece flow.  There are lots of rocks under the water (inventory levels) and if you lower the levels too quickly, you are sure to hit one of them.  Remove the rocks first, and then slowly reduce your batches.
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of interesting comments.  The one thing nobody has really mentioned is that the idea with Lean is to work &#8220;towards&#8221; one piece flow with one-piece being the optimum.  There are many reasons a process might not be able to work at one piece flow; distance between processes being a biggie.  The idea with Lean is to remove the &#8220;wastes&#8221; (distance being one), so that you can get closer to one-piece flow.  In the example where you wouldn&#8217;t want to have to walk over to the iron to iron one piece, the answer would be to somehow connect the processes so that distance would not be an issue.  The &#8220;Big Picture&#8221; of the video was to show how one-piece flow would reduce lead time by removing motion wastes that added to it.  If you have to pick up a piece more than once, you are wasting motion.  In his example, he keeps the part in his hand at all times through the process; thus reducing the motion and transportation waste associated with batch.  Remember though, you cannot always go directly to one-piece flow.  There are lots of rocks under the water (inventory levels) and if you lower the levels too quickly, you are sure to hit one of them.  Remove the rocks first, and then slowly reduce your batches.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Kai Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/the_evils_of_mass_production/comment-page-1/#comment-9896</link>
		<dc:creator>Kai Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fashion-incubator.com/2008/03/the_evils_of_mass_production/#comment-9896</guid>
		<description>Mike C: With single-sheet flyers you can grab 5 or 10 and fold them with a quick crease, then separate the leaves as you grab them for insertion.  Stacking the envelopes flap-up, oriented so the opening faces the hand that grabs the flyer.

Then, too, our postage meter has a water reservoir and seals as it applies postage.
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike C: With single-sheet flyers you can grab 5 or 10 and fold them with a quick crease, then separate the leaves as you grab them for insertion.  Stacking the envelopes flap-up, oriented so the opening faces the hand that grabs the flyer.</p>
<p>Then, too, our postage meter has a water reservoir and seals as it applies postage.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mike C</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/the_evils_of_mass_production/comment-page-1/#comment-9895</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fashion-incubator.com/2008/03/the_evils_of_mass_production/#comment-9895</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
As a long-time secretary I&#039;ve stuffed my share of envelopes, and neither of those choices represents the way I was taught to do it, in a few particulars.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Now I&#039;m curious.  What is the better way to stuff the envelope?
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
As a long-time secretary I&#8217;ve stuffed my share of envelopes, and neither of those choices represents the way I was taught to do it, in a few particulars.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Now I&#8217;m curious.  What is the better way to stuff the envelope?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mike C</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/the_evils_of_mass_production/comment-page-1/#comment-9894</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fashion-incubator.com/2008/03/the_evils_of_mass_production/#comment-9894</guid>
		<description>The &quot;downside&quot; of lean is that it often requires a significant investment up front.

The lean solution to your machine issues would be to add more machines (or switch to machines that could
multi-purpose without any delays).

Its a straightforward calculation to determine whether the efficiency gained would be justify the cost.  (Though, in our case, America&#039;s 21st had to both calculate the equipment cost upgrade and expected efficiency improvements.)

</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;downside&#8221; of lean is that it often requires a significant investment up front.</p>
<p>The lean solution to your machine issues would be to add more machines (or switch to machines that could<br />
multi-purpose without any delays).</p>
<p>Its a straightforward calculation to determine whether the efficiency gained would be justify the cost.  (Though, in our case, America&#8217;s 21st had to both calculate the equipment cost upgrade and expected efficiency improvements.)</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Kai Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/the_evils_of_mass_production/comment-page-1/#comment-9893</link>
		<dc:creator>Kai Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fashion-incubator.com/2008/03/the_evils_of_mass_production/#comment-9893</guid>
		<description>I don&#039;t dispute the lean manufacturing value, but I think the example chosen is poor because it presents the fallacy of the false dilemma: his two processes are not the only choices.

As a long-time secretary I&#039;ve stuffed my share of envelopes, and neither of those choices represents the way I was taught to do it, in a few particulars.
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t dispute the lean manufacturing value, but I think the example chosen is poor because it presents the fallacy of the false dilemma: his two processes are not the only choices.</p>
<p>As a long-time secretary I&#8217;ve stuffed my share of envelopes, and neither of those choices represents the way I was taught to do it, in a few particulars.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ron Pereira</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/the_evils_of_mass_production/comment-page-1/#comment-9892</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Pereira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fashion-incubator.com/2008/03/the_evils_of_mass_production/#comment-9892</guid>
		<description>Thanks for the passionate dialogue everyone.  I love this type of discussion as it helps me learn.

I may do another video where we make PB&amp;J sandwiches in batch and then one piece flow using more of an assembly line.  I may get my kids in on the action.  We can then donate the sandwiches to our local soup kitchen teaching the lean principle of &quot;respecting people.&quot;

I am curious if anyone has ideas for how to compare one piece flow top batch production using aspects of your business (e.g. fashion, sewing, etc.).  If you have any ideas please do share.

Thanks again everyone.  All the best.
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the passionate dialogue everyone.  I love this type of discussion as it helps me learn.</p>
<p>I may do another video where we make PB&#038;J sandwiches in batch and then one piece flow using more of an assembly line.  I may get my kids in on the action.  We can then donate the sandwiches to our local soup kitchen teaching the lean principle of &#8220;respecting people.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am curious if anyone has ideas for how to compare one piece flow top batch production using aspects of your business (e.g. fashion, sewing, etc.).  If you have any ideas please do share.</p>
<p>Thanks again everyone.  All the best.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Marguerite Swope</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/the_evils_of_mass_production/comment-page-1/#comment-9891</link>
		<dc:creator>Marguerite Swope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fashion-incubator.com/2008/03/the_evils_of_mass_production/#comment-9891</guid>
		<description>Eric, you&#039;re assuming you&#039;re shipping an item as soon as it&#039;s ready.  I&#039;m usually working on several orders at once that have the same ship date.

I think we&#039;re beating a dead horse here.  Given ideal conditions, lean is faster, but we don&#039;t all operate in ideal conditions, and we have to combine batch and lean.

I don&#039;t have enough machines to have one set up for everything I do.  Sometimes I need 1 needle in my serger, sometimes 2.  I&#039;m not going to stop in the middle of a skirt (for example) and change the needle set up (which always requires testing the stitch, an extra step every time I change the threading) if I&#039;m working on 3 skirts.  I&#039;m going to do all the 1 needle stitching on all of them, then change to 2 needles and finish all of them--except for the last step which requires me to go back to 1 needle.  And there&#039;s the sewing machine--same problem, different thread for sewing in labels than for the finish work on some garments.  So I do a bunch of labels all at once.  And then there&#039;s buttonholes--same sewing machine, different set up.

It&#039;s a pain with all the fabric handling...but until I can have a bigger workspace with all the machines set up as I need them, I just plug along being as efficient as I can be.

Bottom line for me is that I like lean when I can do it, but it&#039;s just not always practical.  Sometimes it&#039;s just a matter of which I hate least--handling batch fabric or changing set-ups to do one garment all at once.

Kathleen, don&#039;t be embarrassed.  I think we all understand lean, we strive to be as fast and efficient as we can, and the interest in Mike&#039;s setup is evidence that if we could have the ideal shop, we&#039;d have lean!  I know I would.

Marguerite


</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric, you&#8217;re assuming you&#8217;re shipping an item as soon as it&#8217;s ready.  I&#8217;m usually working on several orders at once that have the same ship date.</p>
<p>I think we&#8217;re beating a dead horse here.  Given ideal conditions, lean is faster, but we don&#8217;t all operate in ideal conditions, and we have to combine batch and lean.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have enough machines to have one set up for everything I do.  Sometimes I need 1 needle in my serger, sometimes 2.  I&#8217;m not going to stop in the middle of a skirt (for example) and change the needle set up (which always requires testing the stitch, an extra step every time I change the threading) if I&#8217;m working on 3 skirts.  I&#8217;m going to do all the 1 needle stitching on all of them, then change to 2 needles and finish all of them&#8211;except for the last step which requires me to go back to 1 needle.  And there&#8217;s the sewing machine&#8211;same problem, different thread for sewing in labels than for the finish work on some garments.  So I do a bunch of labels all at once.  And then there&#8217;s buttonholes&#8211;same sewing machine, different set up.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a pain with all the fabric handling&#8230;but until I can have a bigger workspace with all the machines set up as I need them, I just plug along being as efficient as I can be.</p>
<p>Bottom line for me is that I like lean when I can do it, but it&#8217;s just not always practical.  Sometimes it&#8217;s just a matter of which I hate least&#8211;handling batch fabric or changing set-ups to do one garment all at once.</p>
<p>Kathleen, don&#8217;t be embarrassed.  I think we all understand lean, we strive to be as fast and efficient as we can, and the interest in Mike&#8217;s setup is evidence that if we could have the ideal shop, we&#8217;d have lean!  I know I would.</p>
<p>Marguerite</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Eric H</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/the_evils_of_mass_production/comment-page-1/#comment-9890</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 03:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fashion-incubator.com/2008/03/the_evils_of_mass_production/#comment-9890</guid>
		<description>Okay, I agree, evidence is compelling. How do we account for the ~60 second difference in the two processes? (Which I contend is the wrong comparison, more below).

Average time to fold:
Batch: 9 s
Lean: 8 s

Average time to stuff:
Batch: 4 s
Lean: 3 s

Average time to seal:
Batch: 2 s
Lean: 1 s

Average time to stuff:
Batch: 1 s
Lean: 1 s

So, over 10 repetitions, he got a total of 10+10+10=30 seconds of advantage from the shorter time to fold, stuff, and seal.

The shorter fold time could be due to thinner paper, I&#039;ll grant that. Or to the fact that he seems to get better as he goes (he starts out with times of 9-10 s, but ends with times of 7-8 s). The shorter stuff and seal times, though, are due to the fact that he is already holding the item from the previous step. He gains 1 second each time from not having to find and pick it up. That&#039;s part of the point, and another lean production trick (SMED, the one that made Shigeo Shingo famous), so I contend that it&#039;s unfair to count those against him as if they were a parlor trick of some sort.

Still need to account for 30 seconds, though.

He loses between 2 and 5 seconds every time he moves the pile around between steps. Also, he has to manage the pile several times during a task, something he doesn&#039;t have to do nearly as much with OPF. This also has a factory corollary: storing, moving, retrieving, and looking for WIP.

But those are the wrong numbers to compare. The real advantage, though, is the fact that he is knocking out a complete product roughly every 15 seconds with OPF. Every 15 seconds, the lean manufacturer fills another order. Every 15 seconds, he has the opportunity to inspect WIP and final product for defects.

Heck, let&#039;s even spot the batch production method the 3 second difference (most of which is legitimate gain) so that they both average 18 seconds. The lean producer would be still be fulfilling another order every 18 seconds. The Batch producer doesn&#039;t get any orders filled until 3:47. What if they were hours rather than seconds? With 40 hours in a week, that means that the lean producer is shipping twice a week while the batcher is shipping every 6 weeks. Do you like the idea of cash flowing in twice a week, or every 6 weeks?
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I agree, evidence is compelling. How do we account for the ~60 second difference in the two processes? (Which I contend is the wrong comparison, more below).</p>
<p>Average time to fold:<br />
Batch: 9 s<br />
Lean: 8 s</p>
<p>Average time to stuff:<br />
Batch: 4 s<br />
Lean: 3 s</p>
<p>Average time to seal:<br />
Batch: 2 s<br />
Lean: 1 s</p>
<p>Average time to stuff:<br />
Batch: 1 s<br />
Lean: 1 s</p>
<p>So, over 10 repetitions, he got a total of 10+10+10=30 seconds of advantage from the shorter time to fold, stuff, and seal.</p>
<p>The shorter fold time could be due to thinner paper, I&#8217;ll grant that. Or to the fact that he seems to get better as he goes (he starts out with times of 9-10 s, but ends with times of 7-8 s). The shorter stuff and seal times, though, are due to the fact that he is already holding the item from the previous step. He gains 1 second each time from not having to find and pick it up. That&#8217;s part of the point, and another lean production trick (SMED, the one that made Shigeo Shingo famous), so I contend that it&#8217;s unfair to count those against him as if they were a parlor trick of some sort.</p>
<p>Still need to account for 30 seconds, though.</p>
<p>He loses between 2 and 5 seconds every time he moves the pile around between steps. Also, he has to manage the pile several times during a task, something he doesn&#8217;t have to do nearly as much with OPF. This also has a factory corollary: storing, moving, retrieving, and looking for WIP.</p>
<p>But those are the wrong numbers to compare. The real advantage, though, is the fact that he is knocking out a complete product roughly every 15 seconds with OPF. Every 15 seconds, the lean manufacturer fills another order. Every 15 seconds, he has the opportunity to inspect WIP and final product for defects.</p>
<p>Heck, let&#8217;s even spot the batch production method the 3 second difference (most of which is legitimate gain) so that they both average 18 seconds. The lean producer would be still be fulfilling another order every 18 seconds. The Batch producer doesn&#8217;t get any orders filled until 3:47. What if they were hours rather than seconds? With 40 hours in a week, that means that the lean producer is shipping twice a week while the batcher is shipping every 6 weeks. Do you like the idea of cash flowing in twice a week, or every 6 weeks?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Mike C</title>
		<link>http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/the_evils_of_mass_production/comment-page-1/#comment-9889</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 00:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.fashion-incubator.com/2008/03/the_evils_of_mass_production/#comment-9889</guid>
		<description>Interesting.

As I watched the video, I didn&#039;t see any particular bias in the way he conducted his operations.  I assume that both the batch and single piece flow could be further improved, but that wasn&#039;t the point of the video.  I&#039;ll have to take a look and see whether I can detect any if I&#039;m specifically looking to find it.

Someone mentioned that they could see single piece flow working in an environment with multiple workers (like here at Fit Couture) whereas it might not work as well in a single employee example.

I would counter that the opposite is true.  At least in our case (and logically, it should hold true in most other cases as well), we would achieve our highest theoretical output by maintaining a 1:1 ratio between physical manufacturing lines and employees.  We would probably still treat them as a team for bonus purposes to maintain the shared goals and camaraderie that TSS fosters though.

The &quot;bumping&quot; that occurs during single piece flow is wasteful.  Its a big improvement over batch mode, but there is still waste there.

Any time our line is short handed, efficiency is higher than if its fully staffed.  Indeed, I&#039;m starting to suspect that our workers have figured this out and are starting to game the bonus plan a bit by minimizing the number of hours per day that the line is fully staffed (i.e. one worker comes in early and one stays late) to take advantage of that.  In as much as it doesn&#039;t force me to work longer days than I&#039;m already working, I don&#039;t really care.  As the team efficiency increases, the stitchers make more money while our actual cost per unit drops.


</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.</p>
<p>As I watched the video, I didn&#8217;t see any particular bias in the way he conducted his operations.  I assume that both the batch and single piece flow could be further improved, but that wasn&#8217;t the point of the video.  I&#8217;ll have to take a look and see whether I can detect any if I&#8217;m specifically looking to find it.</p>
<p>Someone mentioned that they could see single piece flow working in an environment with multiple workers (like here at Fit Couture) whereas it might not work as well in a single employee example.</p>
<p>I would counter that the opposite is true.  At least in our case (and logically, it should hold true in most other cases as well), we would achieve our highest theoretical output by maintaining a 1:1 ratio between physical manufacturing lines and employees.  We would probably still treat them as a team for bonus purposes to maintain the shared goals and camaraderie that TSS fosters though.</p>
<p>The &#8220;bumping&#8221; that occurs during single piece flow is wasteful.  Its a big improvement over batch mode, but there is still waste there.</p>
<p>Any time our line is short handed, efficiency is higher than if its fully staffed.  Indeed, I&#8217;m starting to suspect that our workers have figured this out and are starting to game the bonus plan a bit by minimizing the number of hours per day that the line is fully staffed (i.e. one worker comes in early and one stays late) to take advantage of that.  In as much as it doesn&#8217;t force me to work longer days than I&#8217;m already working, I don&#8217;t really care.  As the team efficiency increases, the stitchers make more money while our actual cost per unit drops.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

