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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 18:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see where Julie said she wants a 30 day return option. She said &lt;blockquote&gt;If it’s not going to sell in 30 days, it’s not going to sell. So I might as well box it up and send it back. &lt;/blockquote&gt; [presumably returning it to someone who can sell it rather than it being thrown away]. She also said in the sentence previous, that this is why she wants a small minimum to start if she doesn&#039;t know how it will sell for her -to minimize her risk in picking up a new line (of gifts etc, she doesn&#039;t sell clothes which age faster).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see where Julie said she wants a 30 day return option. She said<br />
<blockquote>If it’s not going to sell in 30 days, it’s not going to sell. So I might as well box it up and send it back. </p></blockquote>
<p> [presumably returning it to someone who can sell it rather than it being thrown away]. She also said in the sentence previous, that this is why she wants a small minimum to start if she doesn&#8217;t know how it will sell for her -to minimize her risk in picking up a new line (of gifts etc, she doesn&#8217;t sell clothes which age faster).</p>
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		<title>By: Lesley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lesley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 18:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems a little schizophrenic to say you want the ability to place a custom order (which seasonal clothing is) at wholesale (greatly reduced price) with the option of then returning it in 30 days (so basically you have no responsiblity for your buying choices) then expect the manufacturer not to sell their overstock merchandise even at retail (which is there because YOU returned it.)  I don&#039;t think I would want this store&#039;s business to begin with and I am sure a lot of other manufacturers would run from a business plan that is guaranteed to put you out of business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems a little schizophrenic to say you want the ability to place a custom order (which seasonal clothing is) at wholesale (greatly reduced price) with the option of then returning it in 30 days (so basically you have no responsiblity for your buying choices) then expect the manufacturer not to sell their overstock merchandise even at retail (which is there because YOU returned it.)  I don&#8217;t think I would want this store&#8217;s business to begin with and I am sure a lot of other manufacturers would run from a business plan that is guaranteed to put you out of business.</p>
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		<title>By: Fashion Incubator » Lies designers tell 2 -the luxury edition</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fashion Incubator » Lies designers tell 2 -the luxury edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 00:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] all opinion, buyers have an enormous variety of products to choose from. The stark reality is that buyers buy what will sell for them. If you’re not seeing product to fill what you perceive to be a hole in a retailer’s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] all opinion, buyers have an enormous variety of products to choose from. The stark reality is that buyers buy what will sell for them. If you’re not seeing product to fill what you perceive to be a hole in a retailer’s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fashion Incubator » Compromising with Retailers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fashion Incubator » Compromising with Retailers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 16:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 18:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find your insights to the issues retailers face very informative.  It is extremely important to me that I provide good customer service and provide the highest quality products to our boutiques.    I understand your concern that DE&#039;s sell directly to consumers, but as small business owners, we are trying to build awareness of our brands.  As I&#039;m sure you know, so many people now find out about products online and through social networking sites.    People need direct places to go online to shop for the products you offer.   Most retailers are not within driving distance of all potential customers and most online stores do not carry even a fraction of the total product line if you do offer them low purchase minimums as you suggested.   This makes it very difficult for a new designer to pass up the online advertising and opportunity to get products into people&#039;s hands.   Online stores not only provide much needed income for start ups, but also provide crucial feedback to create a better product offerings.   That brand awareness continues to build as shoppers see our products on our website, online shops, and in brick and mortar retailers.   Then they come into your shop, they might already be familiar with the brand then and more inclined to purchase.   I am also working on building a line just for boutiques that will not be carried online to address this concern.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find your insights to the issues retailers face very informative.  It is extremely important to me that I provide good customer service and provide the highest quality products to our boutiques.    I understand your concern that DE&#8217;s sell directly to consumers, but as small business owners, we are trying to build awareness of our brands.  As I&#8217;m sure you know, so many people now find out about products online and through social networking sites.    People need direct places to go online to shop for the products you offer.   Most retailers are not within driving distance of all potential customers and most online stores do not carry even a fraction of the total product line if you do offer them low purchase minimums as you suggested.   This makes it very difficult for a new designer to pass up the online advertising and opportunity to get products into people&#8217;s hands.   Online stores not only provide much needed income for start ups, but also provide crucial feedback to create a better product offerings.   That brand awareness continues to build as shoppers see our products on our website, online shops, and in brick and mortar retailers.   Then they come into your shop, they might already be familiar with the brand then and more inclined to purchase.   I am also working on building a line just for boutiques that will not be carried online to address this concern.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2005 21:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some &quot;apparel&quot; brands do SMU&#039;s (Special makeups)for different retailers to help alleviate some of the repetition you find all over. These SMU&#039;s are sometimes sold at much higher margins for the retailer, and the brand will make a promise to sell this &quot;exclusive&quot; design to their chain only.
Chico&#039;s are mastering this right now. What you see in Seattle, you won&#039;t necessarily see in Boston. And their SMU&#039;s are done on a much smaller scale than say, Nike or Adidas. Sell through on an SMU can be much faster also.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some &#8220;apparel&#8221; brands do SMU&#8217;s (Special makeups)for different retailers to help alleviate some of the repetition you find all over. These SMU&#8217;s are sometimes sold at much higher margins for the retailer, and the brand will make a promise to sell this &#8220;exclusive&#8221; design to their chain only.<br />
Chico&#8217;s are mastering this right now. What you see in Seattle, you won&#8217;t necessarily see in Boston. And their SMU&#8217;s are done on a much smaller scale than say, Nike or Adidas. Sell through on an SMU can be much faster also.<br />
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		<title>By: DL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2005 21:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt; I&#039;ve a number of items which are time-intensive to make so I sell them on my website but won&#039;t sell them wholesale. I have another set of items which are very easy to mass-produce and which I&#039;m willing to sell wholesale. So, would this be a good compromise: having a website-based retail line and a wholesale line? People who come to my online shop wouldn&#039;t find the same things that they find at a store and shop owners wouldn&#039;t have to worry that shoppers might get something from me cheaper. It&#039;s something I&#039;m considering to straddle this line and I&#039;m curious what you and others think about it.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I think that&#039;s a great idea!  I think that&#039;s a terrific example of finding a compromise that makes everyone happy, and will (hopefully) allow everyone involved to be successful without stepping on each other toes or causing any conflicts.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i> I&#8217;ve a number of items which are time-intensive to make so I sell them on my website but won&#8217;t sell them wholesale. I have another set of items which are very easy to mass-produce and which I&#8217;m willing to sell wholesale. So, would this be a good compromise: having a website-based retail line and a wholesale line? People who come to my online shop wouldn&#8217;t find the same things that they find at a store and shop owners wouldn&#8217;t have to worry that shoppers might get something from me cheaper. It&#8217;s something I&#8217;m considering to straddle this line and I&#8217;m curious what you and others think about it.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>I think that&#8217;s a great idea!  I think that&#8217;s a terrific example of finding a compromise that makes everyone happy, and will (hopefully) allow everyone involved to be successful without stepping on each other toes or causing any conflicts.</p>
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		<title>By: Cinnamon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cinnamon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2005 20:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve a number of items which are time-intensive to make so I sell them on my website but won&#039;t sell them wholesale. I have another set of items which are very easy to mass-produce and which I&#039;m willing to sell wholesale. So, would this be a good compromise: having a website-based retail line and a wholesale line? People who come to my online shop wouldn&#039;t find the same things that they find at a store and shop owners wouldn&#039;t have to worry that shoppers might get something from me cheaper. It&#039;s something I&#039;m considering to straddle this line and I&#039;m curious what you and others think about it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve a number of items which are time-intensive to make so I sell them on my website but won&#8217;t sell them wholesale. I have another set of items which are very easy to mass-produce and which I&#8217;m willing to sell wholesale. So, would this be a good compromise: having a website-based retail line and a wholesale line? People who come to my online shop wouldn&#8217;t find the same things that they find at a store and shop owners wouldn&#8217;t have to worry that shoppers might get something from me cheaper. It&#8217;s something I&#8217;m considering to straddle this line and I&#8217;m curious what you and others think about it.</p>
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		<title>By: DL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2005 15:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;I&#039;m a hypothetical DE, so these are hypothetical questions
1) How do you feel about DE&#039;s with retail websites that do not sell directly to a customer that is within a certain # of miles of a retail outlet? Say, if she wanted to order, she had to submit a zip code, and if she&#039;s close to a store that carries my stuff, I tell her to go there, but otherwise I&#039;ll retail direct? &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I only had one experience with that, and it didn&#039;t work as promised.  Even though I had a fair amount of product in stock, the site never did put me on their list of retailers.  That was one of the last straws for me, and I quite dealing with suppliers who retail.
Of course that&#039;s a &quot;one-off&quot; scenario, and I&#039;m not saying it couldn&#039;t work.  And I&#039;m not saying that all retailers mind if you retail, too.  If you notice, big companies like Amazon and Target don&#039;t care if you sell direct; they carry as many products as possible, regardless of how many other places they are available. Customers often pay a tiny bit more per product, just to be able to buy it all in one place or pay reduced shipping (witness &quot;superstores&quot;).
&lt;i&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;2) Or what if she wants an item you don&#039;t carry? If I told her to request it from you, would you make a re-order in order to get it for her? Even if you had to order a few other items, too?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/i&gt;
Hmmm....I don&#039;t think I mentioned that one of the ways I made extra money was by taking special orders.  Sometimes, the problem was that someone wanted one book, and I would have to make a full minimum order.  If the stuff didn&#039;t sell, I would have to send it back, paying shipping and restocking fees.  I did charge a surcharge for the service, so even if I didn&#039;t make a nickel I didn&#039;t lose anything, either.  And it was great customer relations.
&lt;i&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;3) Do &quot;freebies&quot; work for clothing?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/i&gt;
I don&#039;t know why not.
&lt;i&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;4) This is really more for other DE&#039;s with an exchange program: what do you do with the stuff that&#039;s been exchanged out? Especially if (to foster excellent relationships with your retailers), you don&#039;t sell direct to the customer, and therefore can&#039;t easily get rid of things-traded-out?&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/i&gt;
As far as I know, that was never a problem for any of my suppliers.  Several times I&#039;ve received books or other items with another store&#039;s stickers on them.  Usually the suppliers say they won&#039;t take them that way, but I&#039;m sure no one really has the time to make sure every last one of them has been removed.
&lt;i&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;5) Yowza, some of the suggestions you make would be very difficult to implement. We may not have stores, but we still have to maintain spaces, equipment &amp; supply inventories, and while a store owner can work on their taxes and man the store at the same time, the time I put into developing my clothes is not multi-taskable. I can&#039;t even check my e-mail or get my fashion-incubator fix unless I go off the clock. And I still have to do all that stuff... I know too many DE&#039;s for whom success has meant sleeplessness; it makes me hesitate, for sure.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/i&gt;
Most manufacturers/distributors can only implement one or two of them.  A very small percentage is able to do several; but they have well-known brands that are proven sellers.  Just remember, you can do a lot in the name of &quot;customer service&quot; but you just can&#039;t give the store away! The point is to find something that works for both you &amp; the retailers.


Again, I appologize if this is wonky.  I can&#039;t use reply forms at all without crashing my computer -don&#039;t know why.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>I&#8217;m a hypothetical DE, so these are hypothetical questions<br />
1) How do you feel about DE&#8217;s with retail websites that do not sell directly to a customer that is within a certain # of miles of a retail outlet? Say, if she wanted to order, she had to submit a zip code, and if she&#8217;s close to a store that carries my stuff, I tell her to go there, but otherwise I&#8217;ll retail direct? </i></p></blockquote>
<p>I only had one experience with that, and it didn&#8217;t work as promised.  Even though I had a fair amount of product in stock, the site never did put me on their list of retailers.  That was one of the last straws for me, and I quite dealing with suppliers who retail.<br />
Of course that&#8217;s a &#8220;one-off&#8221; scenario, and I&#8217;m not saying it couldn&#8217;t work.  And I&#8217;m not saying that all retailers mind if you retail, too.  If you notice, big companies like Amazon and Target don&#8217;t care if you sell direct; they carry as many products as possible, regardless of how many other places they are available. Customers often pay a tiny bit more per product, just to be able to buy it all in one place or pay reduced shipping (witness &#8220;superstores&#8221;).<br />
<i><br />
<blockquote>2) Or what if she wants an item you don&#8217;t carry? If I told her to request it from you, would you make a re-order in order to get it for her? Even if you had to order a few other items, too?</p></blockquote>
<p></i><br />
Hmmm&#8230;.I don&#8217;t think I mentioned that one of the ways I made extra money was by taking special orders.  Sometimes, the problem was that someone wanted one book, and I would have to make a full minimum order.  If the stuff didn&#8217;t sell, I would have to send it back, paying shipping and restocking fees.  I did charge a surcharge for the service, so even if I didn&#8217;t make a nickel I didn&#8217;t lose anything, either.  And it was great customer relations.<br />
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<blockquote>3) Do &#8220;freebies&#8221; work for clothing?</p></blockquote>
<p></i><br />
I don&#8217;t know why not.<br />
<i><br />
<blockquote>4) This is really more for other DE&#8217;s with an exchange program: what do you do with the stuff that&#8217;s been exchanged out? Especially if (to foster excellent relationships with your retailers), you don&#8217;t sell direct to the customer, and therefore can&#8217;t easily get rid of things-traded-out?</p></blockquote>
<p></i><br />
As far as I know, that was never a problem for any of my suppliers.  Several times I&#8217;ve received books or other items with another store&#8217;s stickers on them.  Usually the suppliers say they won&#8217;t take them that way, but I&#8217;m sure no one really has the time to make sure every last one of them has been removed.<br />
<i><br />
<blockquote>5) Yowza, some of the suggestions you make would be very difficult to implement. We may not have stores, but we still have to maintain spaces, equipment &#038; supply inventories, and while a store owner can work on their taxes and man the store at the same time, the time I put into developing my clothes is not multi-taskable. I can&#8217;t even check my e-mail or get my fashion-incubator fix unless I go off the clock. And I still have to do all that stuff&#8230; I know too many DE&#8217;s for whom success has meant sleeplessness; it makes me hesitate, for sure.</p></blockquote>
<p></i><br />
Most manufacturers/distributors can only implement one or two of them.  A very small percentage is able to do several; but they have well-known brands that are proven sellers.  Just remember, you can do a lot in the name of &#8220;customer service&#8221; but you just can&#8217;t give the store away! The point is to find something that works for both you &#038; the retailers.</p>
<p>Again, I appologize if this is wonky.  I can&#8217;t use reply forms at all without crashing my computer -don&#8217;t know why.</p>
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		<title>By: Jinjer Markley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jinjer Markley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2005 00:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a hypothetical DE, so these are hypothetical questions

1) How do you feel about DE&#039;s with retail websites that do not sell directly to a customer that is within a certain # of miles of a retail outlet? Say, if she wanted to order, she had to submit a zip code, and if she&#039;s close to a store that carries my stuff, I tell her to go there, but otherwise I&#039;ll retail direct?

2) Or what if she wants an item you don&#039;t carry? If I told her to request it from you, would you make a re-order in order to get it for her? Even if you had to order a few other items, too?

3) Do &quot;freebies&quot; work for clothing?

4) This is really more for other DE&#039;s with an exchange program: what do you do with the stuff that&#039;s been exchanged out? Especially if (to foster excellent relationships with your retailers), you don&#039;t sell direct to the customer, and therefore can&#039;t easily get rid of things-traded-out?

5) Yowza, some of the suggestions you make would be very difficult to implement. We may not have stores, but we still have to maintain spaces, equipment &amp; supply inventories, and while a store owner can work on their taxes and man the store at the same time, the time I put into developing my clothes is not multi-taskable. I can&#039;t even check my e-mail or get my fashion-incubator fix unless I go off the clock. And I still have to do all that stuff... I know too many DE&#039;s for whom success has meant sleeplessness; it makes me hesitate, for sure.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a hypothetical DE, so these are hypothetical questions</p>
<p>1) How do you feel about DE&#8217;s with retail websites that do not sell directly to a customer that is within a certain # of miles of a retail outlet? Say, if she wanted to order, she had to submit a zip code, and if she&#8217;s close to a store that carries my stuff, I tell her to go there, but otherwise I&#8217;ll retail direct?</p>
<p>2) Or what if she wants an item you don&#8217;t carry? If I told her to request it from you, would you make a re-order in order to get it for her? Even if you had to order a few other items, too?</p>
<p>3) Do &#8220;freebies&#8221; work for clothing?</p>
<p>4) This is really more for other DE&#8217;s with an exchange program: what do you do with the stuff that&#8217;s been exchanged out? Especially if (to foster excellent relationships with your retailers), you don&#8217;t sell direct to the customer, and therefore can&#8217;t easily get rid of things-traded-out?</p>
<p>5) Yowza, some of the suggestions you make would be very difficult to implement. We may not have stores, but we still have to maintain spaces, equipment &#038; supply inventories, and while a store owner can work on their taxes and man the store at the same time, the time I put into developing my clothes is not multi-taskable. I can&#8217;t even check my e-mail or get my fashion-incubator fix unless I go off the clock. And I still have to do all that stuff&#8230; I know too many DE&#8217;s for whom success has meant sleeplessness; it makes me hesitate, for sure.</p>
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