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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I need to be more creative with the search feature&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I suggest being proactive by posting the question. Ask and you shall receive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I need to be more creative with the search feature</p></blockquote>
<p>I suggest being proactive by posting the question. Ask and you shall receive.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristi Hayes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristi Hayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Tis because I am a lurker.  ;)  Talk of garment construction is very interesting to me, but it quickly spins out of my range of what I can usefully contribute to.  I spent quite a while reading through threads referencing &quot;private label&quot; and didn&#039;t find pricing discussion, but I need to be more creative with the search feature, I guess.   Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Tis because I am a lurker.  <img src='http://www.fashion-incubator.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   Talk of garment construction is very interesting to me, but it quickly spins out of my range of what I can usefully contribute to.  I spent quite a while reading through threads referencing &#8220;private label&#8221; and didn&#8217;t find pricing discussion, but I need to be more creative with the search feature, I guess.   Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know we&#039;ve discussed it at length on the forum but I can&#039;t remember in what thread or section. Try poking around in there. We haven&#039;t seen you in there for awhile anyway :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know we&#8217;ve discussed it at length on the forum but I can&#8217;t remember in what thread or section. Try poking around in there. We haven&#8217;t seen you in there for awhile anyway <img src='http://www.fashion-incubator.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: Kristi Hayes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristi Hayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 11:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this article! 

Where could I read more about pricing private labels?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this article! </p>
<p>Where could I read more about pricing private labels?</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 15:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anyone is interested, Centric Software has released a report on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.centricsoftware.com/default.asp?url=literature_library&amp;section=whitepapers&amp;id=17&amp;oid=74&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Status and Trends&lt;/a&gt; in private label sourcing. Registration is required.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone is interested, Centric Software has released a report on <a href="http://www.centricsoftware.com/default.asp?url=literature_library&#038;section=whitepapers&#038;id=17&#038;oid=74" rel="nofollow">Status and Trends</a> in private label sourcing. Registration is required.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiran Bindra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kiran Bindra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 19:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The lure of a big name company many times entices the manufacturer to agree to all the terms demanded by the company.  In our experience, the manufacturer has to have a really good hold on contracts and a strong person in charge for negotiations.  Once the private label seekers see the benefits of working with a no-hassle company, they will happily agree to 30-50% deposit on a production order.

My advise would be to do a sample run for a private label project (definitely get paid for the samples - industry standard is 2x the production cost).  Let them review the working procedures, the levels of communication, understanding and interpretation of requirements, delivery times and budget on the samples provided by your operation.  This exercise not only builds confidence in your client on your manufacturing but also gives you an indication on how well they know what they want (designs, fabrics, patterns, etc), how clear and definitive their requirements are (avoid companies that change their mind every week)and finally if they pay their sampling bills on time - cha-ching!

In this industry, given the risks and changing variables in the global equation, the contracts and the deposits have to be strictly in place for the company mentioned in the post, as well as an operation as ours to stay in business in the US for years and decades to come!

Quoting Kathleen - &quot;Get the money first: If you&#039;re buying goods exclusive to the store&#039;s request, they must agree to specific quantities and a down payment (at least 50%) is in order&quot;...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lure of a big name company many times entices the manufacturer to agree to all the terms demanded by the company.  In our experience, the manufacturer has to have a really good hold on contracts and a strong person in charge for negotiations.  Once the private label seekers see the benefits of working with a no-hassle company, they will happily agree to 30-50% deposit on a production order.</p>
<p>My advise would be to do a sample run for a private label project (definitely get paid for the samples &#8211; industry standard is 2x the production cost).  Let them review the working procedures, the levels of communication, understanding and interpretation of requirements, delivery times and budget on the samples provided by your operation.  This exercise not only builds confidence in your client on your manufacturing but also gives you an indication on how well they know what they want (designs, fabrics, patterns, etc), how clear and definitive their requirements are (avoid companies that change their mind every week)and finally if they pay their sampling bills on time &#8211; cha-ching!</p>
<p>In this industry, given the risks and changing variables in the global equation, the contracts and the deposits have to be strictly in place for the company mentioned in the post, as well as an operation as ours to stay in business in the US for years and decades to come!</p>
<p>Quoting Kathleen &#8211; &#8220;Get the money first: If you&#8217;re buying goods exclusive to the store&#8217;s request, they must agree to specific quantities and a down payment (at least 50%) is in order&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 19:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We get asked about private label from time to time.  Its not something we&#039;re really interested in doing.  Anything we&#039;d do on private label could probably be farmed out of country if volumes ever got to the point where they were interesting.

We do get quite a bit of interest in co-branding though.  Companies will buy our garments and then logo the exterior with embroidery or screen-printing.  We&#039;ve always done a little business with that.  I expect it will reach 5-10% of our total for 2008, though the majority of that is from one customer.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We get asked about private label from time to time.  Its not something we&#8217;re really interested in doing.  Anything we&#8217;d do on private label could probably be farmed out of country if volumes ever got to the point where they were interesting.</p>
<p>We do get quite a bit of interest in co-branding though.  Companies will buy our garments and then logo the exterior with embroidery or screen-printing.  We&#8217;ve always done a little business with that.  I expect it will reach 5-10% of our total for 2008, though the majority of that is from one customer.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 18:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;However, demise was not a necessary outcome. Had this company recognized that this deal had potential to put the company at risk, then it would have been prudent to consult a turnaround specialist early on. &lt;/i&gt;

I agree this wasn&#039;t an unavoidable outcome. They should have gotten 50% of the total contract&#039;s value, not 25% of the cost of inputs.

I hate to say this but this is a rather naive position for this contractor to be in. This illustrates in part, why suppliers and contractors  DO NOT CARE how big you are, if anything, it can put you in a position to hurt them worse. Believe me, I hear plenty of complaints about big companies too, I just don&#039;t print them because it&#039;s germane to this site. Companies that should know better, get starry-eyed by a big brand name. What we haven&#039;t heard is how many companies *Biggest* Name Lingerie retailer went to before this company, who turned them down cold.

&lt;i&gt;{Hey... isn&#039;t this a lean principle?} &lt;/i&gt;

Yes it is, absolutely. Lean practitioners don&#039;t grind discounts out of vendors through heavy handed demands, they need them. Their strategy is to help suppliers get leaner so their costs and subsequent prices will decrease.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>However, demise was not a necessary outcome. Had this company recognized that this deal had potential to put the company at risk, then it would have been prudent to consult a turnaround specialist early on. </i></p>
<p>I agree this wasn&#8217;t an unavoidable outcome. They should have gotten 50% of the total contract&#8217;s value, not 25% of the cost of inputs.</p>
<p>I hate to say this but this is a rather naive position for this contractor to be in. This illustrates in part, why suppliers and contractors  DO NOT CARE how big you are, if anything, it can put you in a position to hurt them worse. Believe me, I hear plenty of complaints about big companies too, I just don&#8217;t print them because it&#8217;s germane to this site. Companies that should know better, get starry-eyed by a big brand name. What we haven&#8217;t heard is how many companies *Biggest* Name Lingerie retailer went to before this company, who turned them down cold.</p>
<p><i>{Hey&#8230; isn&#8217;t this a lean principle?} </i></p>
<p>Yes it is, absolutely. Lean practitioners don&#8217;t grind discounts out of vendors through heavy handed demands, they need them. Their strategy is to help suppliers get leaner so their costs and subsequent prices will decrease.</p>
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		<title>By: Alison Cummins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alison Cummins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 17:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My grandparents are in Cortland! In the 1940s they chose that city to settle in out of all of the US for several reasons, chief among them the economic stability of the town: it had work and revenue from the manufacturing, agriculture, education and health sectors.

Census statistics from 2000 report 24.7% of the population living in poverty (compared to 11.3% for the US overall).

The manufacturing sector has been taking it pretty hard since the 1970’s, though apparently it’s starting to pick up again.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My grandparents are in Cortland! In the 1940s they chose that city to settle in out of all of the US for several reasons, chief among them the economic stability of the town: it had work and revenue from the manufacturing, agriculture, education and health sectors.</p>
<p>Census statistics from 2000 report 24.7% of the population living in poverty (compared to 11.3% for the US overall).</p>
<p>The manufacturing sector has been taking it pretty hard since the 1970’s, though apparently it’s starting to pick up again.</p>
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		<title>By: J C Sprowls</title>
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		<dc:creator>J C Sprowls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 17:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kaaren

Oh my. You know, I hate hearing stories of shops that &quot;lost their contract&quot; and were subsequently forced to liquidate. It&#039;s sad and unnecessary.

What&#039;s worse, though, is that the majority of such cases are brought on by pride. In corporate lingo, we refer to it as &lt;a href=&quot;http://12manage.com/methods_turnaround_management.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;strategic distress&quot;&lt;/a&gt;.

I know. I&#039;m unpopular. I&#039;m used to it. Just hear me out, please.

There are certainly extenuating circumstances we&#039;re not privy to. However, demise was not a necessary outcome. Had this company recognized that this deal had potential to put the company at risk, then it would have been prudent to consult a turnaround specialist early on.

For the cost of a consultation fee, a turnaround specialist could have counseled this company and negotiated a stronger deal before the lawyers wrote the contracts. Of course, this necessitates early diagnosis which requires a mentality that no cow is sacred

{Hey... isn&#039;t this a lean principle?}

When compared to the demise of the company, a TS&#039;s consultation fee would have been much less expensive. And, therefore, a prudent investment. Plus, there are other benefits a TS brings. S/he could have pursued funding if it were necessary and then managed the company through the project to safety. If funding were not needed, the TS could have been retained as ad hoc counsel without changing the existing management structure.

The crux of what I&#039;m trying to get at is that demise is never a necessary outcome. We need recognize that there is a world of options at our disposal if we can get past our pride and just ask the right people for help.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kaaren</p>
<p>Oh my. You know, I hate hearing stories of shops that &#8220;lost their contract&#8221; and were subsequently forced to liquidate. It&#8217;s sad and unnecessary.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s worse, though, is that the majority of such cases are brought on by pride. In corporate lingo, we refer to it as <a href="http://12manage.com/methods_turnaround_management.html" rel="nofollow">&#8220;strategic distress&#8221;</a>.</p>
<p>I know. I&#8217;m unpopular. I&#8217;m used to it. Just hear me out, please.</p>
<p>There are certainly extenuating circumstances we&#8217;re not privy to. However, demise was not a necessary outcome. Had this company recognized that this deal had potential to put the company at risk, then it would have been prudent to consult a turnaround specialist early on.</p>
<p>For the cost of a consultation fee, a turnaround specialist could have counseled this company and negotiated a stronger deal before the lawyers wrote the contracts. Of course, this necessitates early diagnosis which requires a mentality that no cow is sacred</p>
<p>{Hey&#8230; isn&#8217;t this a lean principle?}</p>
<p>When compared to the demise of the company, a TS&#8217;s consultation fee would have been much less expensive. And, therefore, a prudent investment. Plus, there are other benefits a TS brings. S/he could have pursued funding if it were necessary and then managed the company through the project to safety. If funding were not needed, the TS could have been retained as ad hoc counsel without changing the existing management structure.</p>
<p>The crux of what I&#8217;m trying to get at is that demise is never a necessary outcome. We need recognize that there is a world of options at our disposal if we can get past our pride and just ask the right people for help.</p>
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